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    Default please someone talk me out of it.

    Current ride is a 2014 TG with 5800 miles, whim , 14" shocks with comfort lift moded seat with backrest and a few other things. Stopped at my dealer and looked at a Click image for larger version. 

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    There is always JUST enough change to entice ... if you got the $$$ ... why not

    One thing I've learned through my life ... ya can't take it with you ... if you got someone to leave it too ... that's another consideration ...

    My friend, a retired HD Salesman, told me the average Harley that is traded in is 3-5 years old and has 3-5k miles on it. Most people here in trike talk seem to be putting more mile on them than that.

    I have no problem with an owner only riding 1-2k a year ... after all these are recreational vehicles. Life has a funny way of getting in the way of "fun time".

    Having said all that ... we are 6-7 months from the 2020's coming out .... I'd wait to see what the new bells and whistles are in August and if not Enticing, pick up a discounted 2019. Of course, your 14 will be a model year older, and worth less in trade. Just my humble opinion ... coming from New Jersey, you may only have 4-5 months of riding time between now and then.

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    Oh yea ... I was supposed to talk you out of it .... You have a very good looking trike ...

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    I was thinking about waiting for the 20's. I put about 2 thousand a year on my rides. I bought the 14 last year with 3900 miles on it from a private party. The hard thing is there offering me more for trade then I paid and will swap out the whim for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johno View Post
    Current ride is a 2014 TG with 5800 miles, whim , 14" shocks with comfort lift moded seat with backrest and a few other things. Stopped at my dealer and looked at a Click image for larger version. 

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ID:	665842019. Don't know if there's enough of a change to do a trade but the dealer is trying real hard to get me to do it. Picture is before I made any changes.
    Just posted, in a different thread, my thoughts on the same question rolling around in my head about moving from a 2014 to a newer model-

    So why am I thinking about moving to a 2019 or 2020 this coming August?

    We'll see how our summer trips go and then decide from there.

    I've ridden the 2018 and 2019 models, I like the M8 powerplant...but I can scratch that itch without starting all over again on my Long Distance Touring Tri Glide.

    I have no need for ABS, bigger nav screen, or traction control. Suspension on my 14 TG is far superior to the 2019 stock suspension. So it will probably come down to if there are any frame changes in 2020.

    With HD devoting so many resources to electric bikes, adventure bikes, streetfighter bikes, it may be less likely that they will have any major changes to the Touring line.

    We'll see.

    Bottom line for me is the only real reason that would tempt me away is the M8 engine....just the geek in me to play with the newest HD powerplant.

    My '14 Twin Cam has plenty of power for the riding I do. It can cruise all day long at 75 mph without breaking a sweat. When I need to get past someone, it easily pops up to 90 mph. I don't need more than that.

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    I know what you mean kevin, and I don't know if I want to give up the awesome shocks and comfort lift I got from ,you.

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    Maybe Ill just fiqure out some highway pegs for it and hang on till next year.

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    I had a 16 Tri Glide and traded it for a 17 Tri Glide and i have regretted it,my 17 has been in the shop 7 times for warranty work now with the clutch recall it will soon be 8.Still not sure if the transmission oil migration issue has been fixed.You can upgrade your shocks for less than a grand and with a gutted head pipe,tune,air cleaner and slip-ons you will still be under what it will cost you to trade.If your trike had a ton of miles i would say yes do it,but at such low mileage there is a lot of life left in it.But with that said its your money so I say good luck with your decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mykneesbehurtin View Post
    I had a 16 Tri Glide and traded it for a 17 Tri Glide and i have regretted it,my 17 has been in the shop 7 times for warranty work now with the clutch recall it will soon be 8.Still not sure if the transmission oil migration issue has been fixed.You can upgrade your shocks for less than a grand and with a gutted head pipe,tune,air cleaner and slip-ons you will still be under what it will cost you to trade.If your trike had a ton of miles i would say yes do it,but at such low mileage there is a lot of life left in it.But with that said its your money so I say good luck with your decision.
    I Agree......I traded in my 11 Tri-Glide for a 17 Tri-Glide, And not to pile on but After having 4 new Harley's over the years the 17 is the last ,There will never be a Harley in my garage........
    Sometimes a Cigar is Just a Cigar.....
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    I really like that color on your 14; That being said.....

    Tough decision. We are currently riding a 16 with relatively low miles. Seat and exhaust upgraded but not suspension (yet). I've been through the brain fever you are experiencing just about two weeks ago; made the error of dropping by the local Harley dealer for a quick 'look-see'.

    My decision was to wait a year or two. The twin cam engine I currently ride has a history of how many millions (perhaps billions) of miles on its heritage while the new single cam power plants are relatively babes in the woods. For our riding style (read that Geezer bikers) reliability trumps power and awe factor. Money is always an issue but as previously stated you can not take it with you so that was not a primary ecision factor for me.

    One guys thoughts....your mileage may vary!

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    OK, I guess I will take the role of "devil's advocate". Having owned 2016, 2017 and now 2019 Tri Glides, I have found the performance and comfort enhancements "somewhat" worth the added costs of ownership. I really, really like my 2019 although I only have 1400 miles on it. The latest M8 engine seems ideally tuned for the mass of the TGU. The suspension is better than it was but could be better and I think aftermarket strategies like DK's have proved to be quite well received.

    The 2019 is just a more pleasant ride and recently, I found that the changes in suspension are more readily felt in a two-up condition. Just remember that there is about a $7k profit margin in a new TGU and that is what is allowing the dealership to give you more than you paid for your current ride. On my 2017 that I had bought used with 90 miles, the screaming deal that I got on it an my 2016 new allowed me to get into my 2019 at a fairly favorable price in terms of real dollars.

    Only you can decide how best to spend your discretionary monies. If you have other burning things to blow dough on, then the upgrade may be less interesting? Can't wait to hear how we have spent or not spent your money

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    John, you have a nice looking ride with low mileage. I'd hang to it and see what they bring out next year and wait till the oil migration issues are fixed for sure.
    "I don't need a map. I still have a road in front of me!"

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    My way of thinking "Out of date, out of debt". I have my 15fw just about where I want it i.e. Seat, bars, floorboards, brake pedal, shifter arm, exhaust, grips, protective film (xpel), list goes on. Did I mention out of debt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tucci View Post
    My way of thinking "Out of date, out of debt". I have my 15fw just about where I want it i.e. Seat, bars, floorboards, brake pedal, shifter arm, exhaust, grips, protective film (xpel), list goes on. Did I mention out of debt?
    Well, being the old tight wad that I am, I have to agree - I looked at the new TG and was

    ready to trade up, UNTIL they REFUSED to give me a DIME for my 2010.

    Its in great shape and totally fixed up/accessoried to my needs, most people don’t believe

    thats its a 2010 - the killer was the dealer claimed I ride TOO MUCH, with 101,888 miles

    on it I think I’m still good for a couple more years AND it’s PAID FOR!

    RIDE SAFE ALL........


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    Quote Originally Posted by Capt.Bob View Post
    OK, I guess I will take the role of "devil's advocate". Having owned 2016, 2017 and now 2019 Tri Glides, I have found the performance and comfort enhancements "somewhat" worth the added costs of ownership. I really, really like my 2019 although I only have 1400 miles on it. The latest M8 engine seems ideally tuned for the mass of the TGU. The suspension is better than it was but could be better and I think aftermarket strategies like DK's have proved to be quite well received.

    The 2019 is just a more pleasant ride and recently, I found that the changes in suspension are more readily felt in a two-up condition. Just remember that there is about a $7k profit margin in a new TGU and that is what is allowing the dealership to give you more than you paid for your current ride. On my 2017 that I had bought used with 90 miles, the screaming deal that I got on it an my 2016 new allowed me to get into my 2019 at a fairly favorable price in terms of real dollars.

    Only you can decide how best to spend your discretionary monies. If you have other burning things to blow dough on, then the upgrade may be less interesting? Can't wait to hear how we have spent or not spent your money
    Hey Bob!

    The M8 powerplant is the lure...that is sure. Fortunately, with minimal work (a proper, or true, Stage I) the Twin Cam can compete with the M8 for interstate cruising and acceleration.

    BUT, the M8 outshines the TC in low end grunt, and nothing can be done to the Twin Cam (reliably) to match that. PLUS the M8 gets better MPG.

    Glad you're enjoying yours!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter A. View Post
    Well, being the old tight wad that I am, I have to agree - I looked at the new TG and was

    ready to trade up, UNTIL they REFUSED to give me a DIME for my 2010.

    Its in great shape and totally fixed up/accessoried to my needs, most people don’t believe

    thats its a 2010 - the killer was the dealer claimed I ride TOO MUCH, with 101,888 miles

    on it I think I’m still good for a couple more years AND it’s PAID FOR!

    RIDE SAFE ALL........

    That counts for a lot for many of us!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DK Custom Products View Post
    Hey Bob!

    The M8 powerplant is the lure...that is sure. Fortunately, with minimal work (a proper, or true, Stage I) the Twin Cam can compete with the M8 for interstate cruising and acceleration.

    BUT, the M8 outshines the TC in low end grunt, and nothing can be done to the Twin Cam (reliably) to match that. PLUS the M8 gets better MPG.

    Glad you're enjoying yours!

    Kevin
    Kevin, Those performance add-ons that you and others offer for the Twin Cams are great encouragement for those that don't want to have to update to the M8 and also are averse to debt. I don't think that the low-end grunt issue is worth a bunch of thousand dollar bills? In watching your videos of your 2014 TC TGU over the years, I don't think that I would have much or any significant advantages in real-world riding over what you at DK Customs have been able to achieve in your trike.

    Thankfully, I don't buy ANY toys (Tri Glide included) where I incur debt. Like other cheapskates, including myself as one, I can't see screwing up life just for a recreational vehicle

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    I say go for it. Heck the motor company needs your business. Sales are way, way down and we want them to be successful and stick around don't we. Seriously, it is obviously a very subjective decision. It all boils down to what you want and value. Your current ride has very low mileage and is good for many 000s and years of enjoyment no doubt. Should you decide to trade the shocks and lift kit as well as the WHIM you mentioned can be transferred over to a new model so they really are not an issue imo. Good luck with whatever you decide. And btw the current ride looks great!

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    Im thinking more and more that Ill put a few more dollars into it and keep it for a while. Ill be looking for a stage 1 set up. The big thing that several folks have mentioned is ,its paid for.

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    Default Ours is paid for...

    I can upgrade/hotrod or anything else I want to for far less expense than buying new and starting over Just sayin...

    Good luck on your choice. Fred/Jeanne

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    Vintage 09' Vivid Black, Boyesen X force intake, DK Customs DIY external breather, PV tuner, Mighty Mite love Jugs,Titanium Wrapped Header pipe, Khrome Werks 2+2 Wide Sweepers, DK 2" tank lift deluxe, Air Deflectors, Rear Bumper, Fender Chrome trim, Kuri. Rear lights, 9" LRS recurve flat top wind screen, LED headlight and spots, Hubcaps rear wheels

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