150 Most Recent Posts

Thread AuthorPostersPost AuthorForumThread/Post Link
scaldedchevy3scaldedchevyLehman Trike2004 Gold Wing Lehman Monarch 2 Sho...
scaldedchevy3scaldedchevyLehman Trike2004 Gold Wing Lehman Monarch 2 Sho...
New Orleans Kevin6MykneesbehurtinHarley Tri Glide2021 114 Triglide Stage 2 Feuling 4...
DK Custom Products362Jack KlarichHarley Tri GlideWhat did you do to Your Tri-Glide T...
ctdair8MykneesbehurtinHarley Tri GlideHot Rotors After New Pads
ctdair8ctdairHarley Tri GlideHot Rotors After New Pads
Seaweed6Jack KlarichHarley Tri GlideLower Fairing Vents
14TG6Jack KlarichHarley Tri GlideInstalled Genuine HD Armrest kit
ctdair8Jack KlarichHarley Tri GlideHot Rotors After New Pads
Phu Cat2trike ladyGeneral DiscussionIs there a TV commercial
ctdair8ctdairHarley Tri GlideHot Rotors After New Pads
scaldedchevy3Papa ZookLehman Trike2004 Gold Wing Lehman Monarch 2 Sho...
AriNV6Papa ZookRider Safety Discuss...Maybe silly but serious question, s...
Phu Cat2Phu CatGeneral DiscussionIs there a TV commercial
TwoBye1TwoByeFor Sale & WTB C...GL1500 Tall windshield
scaldedchevy3MickLehman Trike2004 Gold Wing Lehman Monarch 2 Sho...
Gernerwa11SullyNew Member Introduct...New Member from Bellingham, WA
AriNV6AriNVRider Safety Discuss...Maybe silly but serious question, s...
Jack Klarich2Jack KlarichGeneral DiscussionGreat Day for a ride today
Gernerwa11Jack KlarichNew Member Introduct...New Member from Bellingham, WA
Gernerwa11Jack KlarichNew Member Introduct...New Member from Bellingham, WA
Jarhead17753Jack KlarichHarley Freewheeler /...paint job
hogmemberisold1hogmemberisoldGeneral DiscussionHow many carry spare headlight bulb...
14TG614TGHarley Tri GlideInstalled Genuine HD Armrest kit
14TG6Papa ZookHarley Tri GlideInstalled Genuine HD Armrest kit
AriNV6Papa ZookRider Safety Discuss...Maybe silly but serious question, s...
AriNV6AriNVRider Safety Discuss...Maybe silly but serious question, s...
AriNV6pawsRider Safety Discuss...Maybe silly but serious question, s...
B SMITH10rhino 2Harley Tri GlideTrailering Tri Glide
B SMITH10DK Custom ProductsHarley Tri GlideTrailering Tri Glide
AriNV6Pegasus1300Rider Safety Discuss...Maybe silly but serious question, s...
AriNV6cycle7447Rider Safety Discuss...Maybe silly but serious question, s...
TomyJ16TomyJHome Built TrikesRebel RT
scaldedchevy3scaldedchevyLehman Trike2004 Gold Wing Lehman Monarch 2 Sho...
AriNV13Jack KlarichNew Member Introduct...New to trike
steelpony55553Jack KlarichDetailingCeramic coating
AriNV6Jack KlarichRider Safety Discuss...Maybe silly but serious question, s...
JTJersey4Jack KlarichHarley Freewheeler /...Removing Trim Around Oil Cooler
AriNV6AriNVRider Safety Discuss...Maybe silly but serious question, s...
AriNV6cycle7447Rider Safety Discuss...Maybe silly but serious question, s...
AriNV6AriNVRider Safety Discuss...Maybe silly but serious question, s...
steelpony55553AriNVDetailingCeramic coating
AriNV13AriNVNew Member Introduct...New to trike
JTJersey4Old Road DogHarley Freewheeler /...Removing Trim Around Oil Cooler
paid4c49VulcanscottHonda TrikesService for differential on a Motor...
DK Custom Products362New Orleans KevinHarley Tri GlideWhat did you do to Your Tri-Glide T...
AriNV13Pegasus1300New Member Introduct...New to trike
Jarhead17753GorillaHarley Freewheeler /...paint job
New Orleans Kevin6New Orleans KevinHarley Tri Glide2021 114 Triglide Stage 2 Feuling 4...
TomyJ8Jack KlarichSidecar ForumHackHer
JTJersey4Jack KlarichHarley Freewheeler /...Removing Trim Around Oil Cooler
AriNV4Jack KlarichCan Am Spyder Trike...I'm a total newbie ... Is the Spyde...
ISP-FL2ISP-FLThe Knife EnthusiestBenchmade Warranty
woody13Rmitchell55Maggie Valley Gather...Maggie Valley 2024
New Orleans Kevin6ISP-FLHarley Tri Glide2021 114 Triglide Stage 2 Feuling 4...
woody13Marc HMaggie Valley Gather...Maggie Valley 2024
woody13Marc HMaggie Valley Gather...Maggie Valley 2024
woody13PosseRiderMaggie Valley Gather...Maggie Valley 2024
ctdair8ctdairHarley Tri GlideHot Rotors After New Pads
New Orleans Kevin6NotgrownupHarley Tri Glide2021 114 Triglide Stage 2 Feuling 4...
New Orleans Kevin6PanheadSteveHarley Tri Glide2021 114 Triglide Stage 2 Feuling 4...
Donnimac3DonnimacHonda TrikesLehman Monarch II
Donnimac3DonnimacHonda TrikesLehman Monarch II
ken g9rhino 2Harley Tri Glidereverse not working
New Orleans Kevin6New Orleans KevinHarley Tri Glide2021 114 Triglide Stage 2 Feuling 4...
ken g9520fdHarley Tri Glidereverse not working
520fd1520fdFor Sale & WTB C...FS: Trike Mid-Step
JTJersey4JTJerseyHarley Freewheeler /...Removing Trim Around Oil Cooler
JTJersey4rhino 2Harley Freewheeler /...Removing Trim Around Oil Cooler
myhonda614TGHarley Tri GlideKuryakyn filler pad
JTJersey4JTJerseyHarley Freewheeler /...Removing Trim Around Oil Cooler
ken g9ken gHarley Tri Glidereverse not working
JTJersey4rhino 2Harley Freewheeler /...Removing Trim Around Oil Cooler
JTJersey4JTJerseyHarley Freewheeler /...Removing Trim Around Oil Cooler
myhonda6Rogue1Harley Tri GlideKuryakyn filler pad
myhonda614TGHarley Tri GlideKuryakyn filler pad
AriNV4AriNVCan Am Spyder Trike...I'm a total newbie ... Is the Spyde...
TFNC12AriNVNew Member Introduct...Just saying hello
Jarhead17753Jarhead1775Harley Freewheeler /...paint job
AriNV13AriNVNew Member Introduct...New to trike
AriNV13AriNVNew Member Introduct...New to trike
myhonda6Rogue1Harley Tri GlideKuryakyn filler pad
woody13woodyMaggie Valley Gather...Maggie Valley 2024
myhonda6NotgrownupHarley Tri GlideKuryakyn filler pad
New Orleans Kevin6NotgrownupHarley Tri Glide2021 114 Triglide Stage 2 Feuling 4...
Donnimac3MickHonda TrikesLehman Monarch II
Gernerwa11trike ladyNew Member Introduct...New Member from Bellingham, WA
myhonda6Rmitchell55Harley Tri GlideKuryakyn filler pad
Gernerwa11GorillaNew Member Introduct...New Member from Bellingham, WA
Yannick24GorillaVW Powered TrikesWil-Mac trike kit
woody13Marc HMaggie Valley Gather...Maggie Valley 2024
Donnimac3GorillaHonda TrikesLehman Monarch II
Gernerwa11rhino 2New Member Introduct...New Member from Bellingham, WA
Gernerwa11Marc HNew Member Introduct...New Member from Bellingham, WA
Gernerwa11Uncle FesterNew Member Introduct...New Member from Bellingham, WA
MDO100ZammyHarley Freewheeler /...What Did You Do To Your Freewheeler...
Gernerwa11ZammyNew Member Introduct...New Member from Bellingham, WA
AriNV13Phu CatNew Member Introduct...New to trike
New Orleans Kevin6New Orleans KevinHarley Tri Glide2021 114 Triglide Stage 2 Feuling 4...
Jjhooker22DeathBySnuSnuVW Powered TrikesSide shifter assembly for 1980 WilM...
Rodnok12ol' schoolNew Member Introduct...Hello Honda Trike owners!
AriNV13ol' schoolNew Member Introduct...New to trike
TFNC12ol' schoolNew Member Introduct...Just saying hello
AriNV13hardwickbvNew Member Introduct...New to trike
whiskeyneat10ol' schoolNew Member Introduct...Howdy"
Gernerwa11hardwickbvNew Member Introduct...New Member from Bellingham, WA
Gernerwa11ol' schoolNew Member Introduct...New Member from Bellingham, WA
scaldedchevy3MickLehman Trike2004 Gold Wing Lehman Monarch 2 Sho...
Jjhooker22Jjhooker2VW Powered TrikesSide shifter assembly for 1980 WilM...
Jack Klarich2TomyJTires, Wheels, Brake...Motorcycle Tire Reference
New Orleans Kevin6JTJerseyHarley Tri Glide2021 114 Triglide Stage 2 Feuling 4...
Jjhooker22DeathBySnuSnuVW Powered TrikesSide shifter assembly for 1980 WilM...
Gernerwa11GernerwaNew Member Introduct...New Member from Bellingham, WA
New Orleans Kevin6New Orleans KevinHarley Tri Glide2021 114 Triglide Stage 2 Feuling 4...
scaldedchevy3scaldedchevyLehman Trike2004 Gold Wing Lehman Monarch 2 Sho...
scaldedchevy3scaldedchevyLehman Trike2004 Gold Wing Lehman Monarch 2 Sho...
scaldedchevy3MickLehman Trike2004 Gold Wing Lehman Monarch 2 Sho...
ken g9OLBLUHarley Tri Glidereverse not working
Jjhooker22Jjhooker2VW Powered TrikesSide shifter assembly for 1980 WilM...
Yannick24Jjhooker2VW Powered TrikesWil-Mac trike kit
Yannick24Jjhooker2VW Powered TrikesWil-Mac trike kit
myhonda6SeaweedHarley Tri GlideKuryakyn filler pad
Donnimac3DonnimacHonda TrikesLehman Monarch II
ken g9rhino 2Harley Tri Glidereverse not working
BigN692GorillaEnabled TrikersFull length floorboards
woody13Marc HMaggie Valley Gather...Maggie Valley 2024
14TG614TGHarley Tri GlideInstalled Genuine HD Armrest kit
14TG614TGHarley Tri GlideInstalled Genuine HD Armrest kit
14TG614TGHarley Tri GlideInstalled Genuine HD Armrest kit
B SMITH10rhino 2Harley Tri GlideTrailering Tri Glide
B SMITH10CasperHarley Tri GlideTrailering Tri Glide
Seaweed6DCR2013Harley Tri GlideLower Fairing Vents
myhonda6myhondaHarley Tri GlideKuryakyn filler pad
14TG6SeaweedHarley Tri GlideInstalled Genuine HD Armrest kit
Seaweed6SeaweedHarley Tri GlideLower Fairing Vents
14TG6TrampasHarley Tri GlideInstalled Genuine HD Armrest kit
scaldedchevy3scaldedchevyLehman Trike2004 Gold Wing Lehman Monarch 2 Sho...
14TG6Papa ZookHarley Tri GlideInstalled Genuine HD Armrest kit
14TG614TGHarley Tri GlideInstalled Genuine HD Armrest kit
BigN692BigN69Enabled TrikersFull length floorboards
TomyJ8TomyJSidecar ForumHackHer
Sully11cScjhbBBQ, Grilling, Cooki...One Has To Go ???
MDO1001dn5upHarley Freewheeler /...What Did You Do To Your Freewheeler...
Seaweed6DK Custom ProductsHarley Tri GlideLower Fairing Vents
14TG6New Orleans KevinHarley Tri GlideInstalled Genuine HD Armrest kit
MDO100Noodles107Harley Freewheeler /...What Did You Do To Your Freewheeler...
msocko354SullyBBQ, Grilling, Cooki...A Little Outdoor Cooking
Papa Zook1451dn5upThe Gun EnthusiastGun Owners
woody13Smitty901Maggie Valley Gather...Maggie Valley 2024
14TG614TGHarley Tri GlideInstalled Genuine HD Armrest kit
Likes Likes:  11
Thanks Thanks:  1
Results 1 to 9 of 9

Thread: 107" and 114" M8 Aftermarket Cam Shaft Comparisons

  1. #1
    950+ Posts Free Bird's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Location
    Saint Louis
    Posts
    951
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default 107" and 114" M8 Aftermarket Cam Shaft Comparisons

    The following cams were part of this test:

    Andrews M460

    Cycle-Rama 460

    S&S Cycle 475C

    Wood Performance-WM8-22X

    Zipper's Red Shift 468

    Wood Performance WM8-222

    The first dyno chart below has all six of the camshafts overlaid to show their respective torque and horsepower relative to this particular set of components. All of the camshafts in the test offered significant performance increases over that of the stock camshaft.

    Name:  Cam 1.jpg
Views: 3638
Size:  162.4 KB


    Andrews M460 Camshaft

    Valve Train Noise: Very Quiet

    Cam Lope at Idle: Moderate

    Description: This cam makes nice broad power. It comes on relatively early and pulls well to the right side of the curve. This cam placed in the middle of the test.

    Name:  Cam 2.jpeg
Views: 3425
Size:  146.8 KB


    Cycle Rama CR-460 Camshaft

    Valve Train Noise: Very Quiet

    Cam Lope at Idle: Moderate

    Description: The Cycle Rama 460 made very good low RPM power (the second best in this test), it also provides a very broad power curve with good upper RPM power.

    Name:  Cam 3.jpeg
Views: 3403
Size:  140.4 KB


    S&S Cycle 475C Camshaft

    Valve Train Noise: Very Quiet

    Cam Lope at Idle: Very Aggressive

    Description: The S&S 475C made the second best peak HP in our test, it accelerates hard. It is very responsive and has the most aggressive lope of all the cams we tested by a significant margin.

    Name:  CAM 4.jpeg
Views: 3365
Size:  138.1 KB


    Wood WM8-22X Camshaft

    Valve Train Noise: Very Quiet

    Cam Lope at Idle: Aggressive

    Description: The WM8-22X camshaft offers the best early torque in this test, and it faired well horsepower wise. This cam is easy to tune and has an aggressive lope.

    Name:  Cam5.jpeg
Views: 3390
Size:  141.3 KB


    Zipper's Red Shift 468 Camshaft

    Valve Train Noise: Very Quiet

    Cam Lope at Idle: Semi-Aggressive

    Description: The Red Shift 468 placed in the middle of our test for both peak torque and horsepower. It has really broad power, nice and strong through the mid RPM's. It has a semi aggressive lope.

    Name:  Cam 6.jpeg
Views: 3335
Size:  138.3 KB


    Wood WM8-222 Camshaft

    Valve Train Noise: Very Quiet

    Cam Lope at Idle: Moderate

    Description: The WM8-222 made the best overall peak horsepower. It made slightly less early torque than the other cams. It has the smoothest curve.

    Name:  Cam 7.jpeg
Views: 3425
Size:  142.5 KB


    The source data web page for the 107" is here:

    https://university.fuelmotousa.com/h...shaft-Shootout

    If you want a cam comparison for the 114" It is here:

    https://university.fuelmotousa.com/h...shaft-Shootout

    Good stuff......

  2. #2
    Senior Moderator
    Gold Club Member
    Gorilla's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Key Largo. Fl,. USA
    Posts
    15,131
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts

    Default

    The woods 22x looks like a good trike cam.
    Stallion #406 // 2013 Tri-Glide

  3. #3
    200+ Posts Wmitz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2018
    Location
    Crossville, TN, USA
    Posts
    217
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default

    There are a few newer cams out since that testing was done. Zippers has 2 new cams and I believe CycleRama has a couple also. It’s an ever changing field. One shop was testing the new CR cam showed impressive torque numbers from 2000/4000 on a 107/114. They called it a tractor build, so it should be pretty good for a trike.

  4. #4
    950+ Posts Free Bird's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Location
    Saint Louis
    Posts
    951
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Wmitz View Post
    There are a few newer cams out since that testing was done. Zippers has 2 new cams and I believe CycleRama has a couple also. It’s an ever changing field. One shop was testing the new CR cam showed impressive torque numbers from 2000/4000 on a 107/114. They called it a tractor build, so it should be pretty good for a trike.
    Thanks.... I will see if I can dig up the dyno curves and summaries and post them too.

  5. #5
    200+ Posts Wmitz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2018
    Location
    Crossville, TN, USA
    Posts
    217
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default

    Sheffer performance has some of the dyno runs you might be interested in.

  6. #6
    200+ Posts
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Location
    Arlington, TX 76017
    Posts
    224
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default

    Great post. The weight and profile of our trikes makes cam selection even more critical than a 2-wheeler. I think a WM8-22X is in my future.

    Thanks for posting this
    2017 HD Freewheeler 107 M8
    2017 HD FLSS 117 CI
    2018 HD Freewheeler 107 M8

  7. #7
    950+ Posts Free Bird's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Location
    Saint Louis
    Posts
    951
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default

    Zippers Red Shift Cam 472 - bolt-in grind for 114, 117 & larger M8

    Work with factory valve train components, as well as modified heads with upgraded spring / valve combinations and porting.

    A mid-range to top-end cam that maintains low-end torque. Cranking compression is only slightly higher than factory for easy starting

    Quiet operation and long valve train life.

    Name:  Zippers 472.jpg
Views: 3333
Size:  140.8 KB

  8. #8
    950+ Posts Free Bird's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Location
    Saint Louis
    Posts
    951
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default

    Found this to add to the study....

    This is a great discussion of the M8 head's air flow and cam dynamics.... It is done by Zippers, so it is definitely a sales pitch for their cams, but it is also a good look into the engineering of the M8 heads and the needs of any cam design that aims to take full advantage of its design. Enjoy....


  9. #9
    5000+ Posts MDO's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2017
    Location
    St. Louis, MO USA
    Posts
    5,123
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default

    Here is another video using a different # Red Shift cam & the increase is impressive. They use a #472 Red Shift Cam.

    2017 Harley Davidson Freewheeler (107 cu.in. vivid black).

Similar Threads

  1. Upgrade 107 to 114
    By boeing247 in forum Harley Tri Glide
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 05-07-2019, 03:33 PM
  2. 2019 114" Breather ?
    By hddocfl in forum Harley Tri Glide
    Replies: 15
    Last Post: 01-03-2019, 08:04 AM
  3. To cam or not to cam
    By engprosinc in forum Harley Trike Conversions
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 04-07-2014, 10:38 AM
  4. Headset comparisons
    By Patches in forum Accessories
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 01-29-2014, 09:40 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •