Kevin, I've thought about adding an open breather like yours, but we often encounter heavy rain and I worry about sucking water into the intake. is that a founded concern?
thanks
JIm
thanks
JIm
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Kevin, I've thought about adding an open breather like yours, but we often encounter heavy rain and I worry about sucking water into the intake. is that a founded concern?
thanks
JIm
Got a few more things done to the Tri Glide yesterday-
- Deleted the stock restrictive air cleaner. Besides being restrictive it also feeds hot, oily, performance robbing oxygen depleted air into the combustion chambers. GONE!
In its place is an Outlaw 606 HiFlow Air Cleaner. Paired with it is a Premium Discrete External Breather System (EBS).
I'm running the same 7 Spoke Chrome cover on it that I ran on the '14 Tri Glide.
The Milwaukee-Eight engine does not have the lean condition that the Twin Cam engine has. It is NOT lean from the factory, AND one can add a high flow air cleaner to it without changing the tune. The ECM will adjust for the extra air.
In this LINK there are dyno charts and AFR charts showing this. I am still running the factory tune. I will eventually put a new tune in, more to adjust the timing a bit and get a bit of a power increase from that. Again, look at the aforementioned link to see dyno charts on that.
- Next up was an Oil Filter Relocation. The reasons for this are to never have to deal with a messy oil filter change again. It is VERY easy and no mess to remove the oil filter now. Also with the filter out in the wind (and not butted up against the engine) it helps cool down the engine. Finally, it allows for installation of a much needed oil cooler.
A bit of a different angle. Also, you can see I am using a permanent, finned, cleanable oil filter.
Next up was something that was desperately needed. An oil cooler. You can see from some of our heat testing that there are ways to cool down the metal of the engine, but there is very little in the way of letting heat dissipate from the oil on a Twin Cooled engine. Without an oil cooler the oil just gets hotter and it is very difficult for it to cool down. The additive package (which is what makes 20W-50 oil act like 50 weight oil when it's hot) starts breaking down.
This Dual Cool Oil Cooler is situated directly behind the lower fairing vent.
I have not done any controlled testing yet, but from the hour or so of riding it appears that it lowers the oil temps even more on the M8 than it does on the Twin Cam. Controlled testing and a report will be done soon.
- Next up was to mount my drink holder and the Power Vision holder onto my handlebars.
Even though I am not running a tune yet, I like to monitor various readings on the Power Vision.
- Lastly, I did get the ceramic coating over the Protective Film.
Since we are headed WAY NORTH, it is going to be cold. Crazy, but in the middle of July we are going to see some days where the high will be in the low 50's, and we'll be riding quite a bit in the 40's. So I put on my taller recurve windshield.
The Tri Glide is ready for the upcoming big trip!
Kevin
Dealer tells me if I add filter relocation and or oil cooler MoCO will void my warrantee. WTF, motor needs it as it does run hot.
This is why I'm being very couscous on what I change, I sprung for the extended warranty ( $3000.00) and at this point I'm thinking it was a "BAD" move, all the Harleys in my past, never and issue with changes that improve performance (V/H)... lowered the heat (oil cooler)... It appears now they are looking closer just trying to find something.
When I took it in for the code @ 1500miles. (b2285) that they cant figure out, THE VERY FIRST THING THEY ASK ME WAS ( have "YOU" done or change anything?
I predict it will "BITE THEM IN THE ASS" when the word gets out. Like I said, if I knew than what I know now I would not of spent $3000.00+ for the factory ext- warranty........ Thank about-it, $40,000.00 bike $3,000.00 extra warranty, and around 1800.00 sales TAX, Than add full coverage ins $600.00 + ..:Shrug:
Rant off..........................................................
Dealer tells me if I add filter relocation and or oil cooler MoCO will void my warrantee. WTF, motor needs it as it does run hot.
You can bet your Dealer is telling you the truth about voiding your engine warranty by these upgrades. Engine clearly will benefit from the upgrades, but these engines were design to run at this heat or they would all be water cooled. I am holding off on these upgrades until I am out of factory warranty,then I will probably install the ones that are proven to lower engine temps just for my own piece of mind and engine longevity. JMHO
This is why I'm being very couscous on what I change, I sprung for the extended warranty ( $3000.00) and at this point I'm thinking it was a "BAD" move, all the Harleys in my past, never and issue with changes that improve performance (V/H)... lowered the heat (oil cooler)... It appears now they are looking closer just trying to find something.
When I took it in for the code @ 1500miles. (b2285) that they cant figure out, THE VERY FIRST THING THEY ASK ME WAS ( have "YOU" done or change anything?
I predict it will "BITE THEM IN THE ASS" when the word gets out. Like I said, if I knew than what I know now I would not of spent $3000.00+ for the factory ext- warranty........ Thank about-it, $40,000.00 bike $3,000.00 extra warranty, and around 1800.00 sales TAX, Than add full coverage ins $600.00 + ..:Shrug:
The point I'm trying to make is, the high cost did not deter me, love the bike. But if they start playing with my warranty, me and Harley will part ways.
Rant off............................................... ...........
This is why I'm being very couscous on what I change, I sprung for the extended warranty ( $3000.00) and at this point I'm thinking it was a "BAD" move, all the Harleys in my past, never and issue with changes that improve performance (V/H)... lowered the heat (oil cooler)... It appears now they are looking closer just trying to find something.
When I took it in for the code @ 1500miles. (b2285) that they cant figure out, THE VERY FIRST THING THEY ASK ME WAS ( have "YOU" done or change anything?
I predict it will "BITE THEM IN THE ASS" when the word gets out. Like I said, if I knew than what I know now I would not of spent $3000.00+ for the factory ext- warranty........ Thank about-it, $40,000.00 bike $3,000.00 extra warranty, and around 1800.00 sales TAX, Than add full coverage ins $600.00 + ..:Shrug:
The point I'm trying to make is, the high cost did not deter me, love the bike. But if they start playing with my warranty, me and Harley will part ways.
Rant off..........................................................
Don't forget to re torque the wheel lugs ...
Hey Kevin, did you track down your horn problem?
I think it was earlier in this thread that there was a discussion of seat covers. We have always used a plastic trash bag to cover our sheepskin. BUT, I decided to try a seat cover...looks better, and a little easier to put on at night.
There were two in the running, the HD brand that stated it was not waterproof and the Saddleman brand that some places said it was waterproof and others that it was just water resistant.
We got the Saddleman brand and then gave it two coatings of tent sealer. Used it a few times in light and moderate rain and it kept the sheepskin dry and it sure looked better than a black plastic trash bag.
Then about a week ago it rained HEAVY all night long. Came out in the morning and the sheepskin was completely soaked. Had to remove it, and it took over a day in the sun for it to completely dry out.
We are back to using the tried and true black plastic trash bag. It never leaks and we always have a dry seat in the morning.
Kevin
Aw man, sorry to hear it didn't work out. We don't get night long rain storms out here in the west, so the cover works well for me. But thinking about this again, I'm headed to Tennessee in September, so I will be sure to bring a plastic bag that can cover the seat, but under the fitted cover. Between the two of them, the sheepskin should stay dry.
And the quest continues....
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