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    I am basically cutting and pasting because I suspect this may have gotten kind of lost in the "Making FBG" thread.

    Here's a scenario: Did a run to Green River, Ut., 110 miles one way.

    Between Grand Junction and Green River there are some significant hills (In Texas y'all would call them mountains ... ... around here ... anything under 8k is a foot hill. They don't call the Rockies "The Continental Divide" for Nothing). Anyway, I set the cruise at 75 mph.

    Here is the weird part, and maybe someone can explain this to me, cause I'm at a loss. With the cruise set at 75 mph, the FBG flew up these hills. On the longest and steepest, just west of Mack, it only dropped to 74 mph, then came right back. About 10 miles into Utah, I came up on one of those triple trailer rigs .. I hate those. I took it out of cruise and hit the throttle .. slight incline, but, fairly long. I got to 85/90 pretty quick and flew past the rig, on the other side, I put it back in cruise.

    So here is the question, am I supposed to be able to make that kind of "guiddy up" with the OEM slip ons? I have always .. with every Harley I've ever owned, done the stage one and slip ons like day one. On this one i did a stage one, but the exhaust is stock, I think. I love the quiet ... yep getting old ... could the PO have "modded" the OEM slip ons with some quiet, power producing baffles??? i looked, they don't look like they have been cut or drilled .. just weird. Is there any bad effects the OEM's could have on the engine with the stage one, I'm thinking the Power Vision will just tune accordingly ... Let me know your thoughts.

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    Definitely possible, have you hooked up the Power Vision yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgrotten View Post
    Definitely possible, have you hooked up the Power Vision yet?
    Yea ... been tweaking the tune for a couple of days ... started with the tune I had on my 15 Tri ... she runs good and is really quiet compared to ANY Harley​ I've ever owned

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    Don't know when H-D changed the tranny sprocket on the TGs to 30 tooth but that makes a tremendous difference in acceleration. Maybe your first TG had the 32 tooth sprocket?

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    Fuzzy, I'm with you in that I'm liking a quieter bike,I did however change head pipes and mufflers and as a stocker it ran VERY well!! Of course being me I have now added the Andrews 48 cams and Target Tune to the mix!!😁

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    I'm confused. ..Are you trying to figure out why your new HD Trike runs so well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MDO View Post
    I'm confused. ..Are you trying to figure out why your new HD Trike runs so well?
    Yes .... You get me

    Actually ... I've always been told the Harleys run like a dog with the OEM mufflers. So, I've never had one with OEM pipes. Even new Harleys I've purchased have had after market or HD "upgraded" mufflers as part of the deal. So ... I'm just a bit surprised that this thing has as much umpf as it does. I'm still tuning and working to get to small numbers in the "learned" column. It's taking some time, because the configuration is a little different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzyWuzHe View Post
    Yes .... You get me

    Actually ... I've always been told the Harleys run like a dog with the OEM mufflers. So, I've never had one with OEM pipes. Even new Harleys I've purchased have had after market or HD "upgraded" mufflers as part of the deal. So ... I'm just a bit surprised that this thing has as much umpf as it does. I'm still tuning and working to get to small numbers in the "learned" column. It's taking some time, because the configuration is a little different.
    I know you have a TC and I have an M8 so not exactly the same. But mine is bone stock and it runs like a scalded cat. Even stronger than my 2017 CVO Limited with the 114" M8 and that's due to the 30 tooth sprocket I think. Plenty strong enough for me. Now I've been through changing out the A/C and mufflers and sometimes head pipe but on this one I ain't doing nothin' to it. It runs so strong and fine I don't have to pay any 'Harley tax' to enjoy it!

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    Fuzzy count the counter shaft pulley Posserider says his 31 tooth Andrews pulley is the ticket for both worlds power and cruising speed... just sayin enjoy it! Fred
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fearless View Post
    Fuzzy count the counter shaft pulley Posserider says his 31 tooth Andrews pulley is the ticket for both worlds power and cruising speed... just sayin enjoy it! Fred
    Could be ... I'll check it tomorrow, but, this thing is so stock ... well was ... I doubt anyone did anything that big to it ... but I'll check ... what should it be if it's a stock 14?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzyWuzHe View Post
    Could be ... I'll check it tomorrow, but, this thing is so stock ... well was ... I doubt anyone did anything that big to it ... but I'll check ... what should it be if it's a stock 14?
    30 tooth trans sprocket p/n 83895-11.

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