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    Default Time for a new voltage regulator

    This past Sunday I was checking the bike over and found this Name:  IMG_1932.JPG
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    The wire had been sitting against the motor for who knows how long with heat, friction etc, finally allowing bare wiring to contact the motor block. I have no idea for how long this has been going on but all systems on the bike are working well but this is a failure/breakdown waiting to happen.

    So what are your thought on the Cycle Electric CE-608 as a replacement. Has anyone used this one https://www.lowbrowcustoms.com/cycle...il-cooler.html

    I like the idea of getting it out from behind the hot oil cooler.

    Thoughts/ideas?

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    Never understood the design for the oil cooler heat to be directed over the regulator.

    The one your lookin At seems ok. I’d go for it BTW , that looks like a critter chew
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1dn5up View Post
    Never understood the design for the oil cooler heat to be directed over the regulator.

    The one your lookin At seems ok. I’d go for it BTW , that looks like a critter chew
    i would agree but I pulled it off the side of the motor.

    I think it’s a good idea to get it away from the heat. I’ll be ordering it today.

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    Motorcycle design engineers baffle me on some of the common sense details. I suppose there's a reason, but it's a secret.

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    Luckily it didn't cause a severe short or some other serious issues like frying the ecm.
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    Good reason why we should be checking over our bikes real good evety once in awhile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikerbillone View Post
    Motorcycle design engineers baffle me on some of the common sense details. I suppose there's a reason, but it's a secret.
    The designers work with paper and pen.....Not hands on with tools...
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    This off of one of the retailers site


    • CYCLE ELECTRIC RECTIFYING REGULATORS
    • Controls voltage on Harley-Davidson and Buell alternators, unlike other rectifiers or regulators that dump to ground and cause maximum stator current and higher temperatures
    • Cycle Electric rectifying regulators block current to control voltage; this reduces stator current, resulting in low temperature and less drag on the motor, which means more efficient operation
    • Low voltage style features reduced charging voltage to prevent overcharging the battery
    • Made in the U.S.A.

    good info

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    Cycle Electric makes good products IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fla Hiker View Post
    This past Sunday I was checking the bike over and found this Name:  IMG_1932.JPG
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    The wire had been sitting against the motor for who knows how long with heat, friction etc, finally allowing bare wiring to contact the motor block. I have no idea for how long this has been going on but all systems on the bike are working well but this is a failure/breakdown waiting to happen.

    So what are your thought on the Cycle Electric CE-608 as a replacement. Has anyone used this one https://www.lowbrowcustoms.com/cycle...il-cooler.html

    I like the idea of getting it out from behind the hot oil cooler.

    Thoughts/ideas?
    On my 93 FXLR i replaced the stator and regulator with componets from Cycle Electric and that was 7 or so years ago and 30,000 miles and all is still good.My son has had it for 3 years and still works fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mykneesbehurtin View Post
    On my 93 FXLR i replaced the stator and regulator with componets from Cycle Electric and that was 7 or so years ago and 30,000 miles and all is still good.My son has had it for 3 years and still works fine.
    Good to know. I ordered the regulator yesterday.

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    So the description of the operating characteristics of this regulator sound like the best electrical solution i wish to pass along something I've learned while working on my Police FLH. Quick diagnostics said replace regulator and I ordered a import / cheap imitation from eBay. It lasted 6 months?. Bit the bullet payed full price for the HD regulator. Lasted 6 months. So I really started to analyze the situation. I know the original poster here had wiring damage that is leading to the replacement of his regulator. But the final cure to my issue and I did not replace the second HD regulator and I now think I probably didn't need to replace the import or even the stock regulator. Besides checking the ground wiring as instructed in the manual and even though it was in spec per the ohm reading I cleaned the ground point under the seat. Still no charging. I ended up sanding the bottom of the feet of the regulator and around the frame contact surface. I also used brake clean to clean the residual oil film in the area caused by removing the oil filter for normal changes. No matter how well we think we clean afterwards there is always some residue left. Moral of the story no more charging issues.
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    So thought I'd give an update. I received the Cycle Electric voltage regulator this past Wednesday I ordered it from lowbrowcustoms.com out of Ohio. Not only do they have their web presence but they actually have a brick and mortar store front, plus they have the best price I found.

    I took pic's of the unit CE-608 thinking i'll post them up along with how it looks installed but it wouldn't fit correctly, so I called lowbrowcustoms and they have a motorcycle tech support dept and I spoke with Todd. Try as he may he couldn't answer my question but what he did do is give me the number for Cycle Electric and the names of the 2 guys I could possibly speak with. (thumbs up)

    So I spoke with Carl at C.E. and he was a huge help. He explained that the frame on out Tri-glides are a little different and that the cross member above the oil cooler that the voltage regulator attaches to is solid soooo I need an adaptor which pushes the regulator foward off and away from the oil lines, etc. He shipped on out to me Friday.

    When I install the unit I'll post up the pics of the unit and install.

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    Default Installing the CE-608TG voltage regulator

    This pic Name:  0.jpg
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    After attaching the new regulator to the crossmember all that was left is plugging the connectors back together and reattaching the oil cooler.Name:  IMG_1978.JPG
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    Easy to install high quality product. It was a hassle to not have the correct length installation screws in the kit. The correct pruduct # is CE-608TG. If your in the market for a new regulator I would suggest you contact the retailer your considering purchasing from and make sure they have the correct model available. Carl from C.E. made it sound like the TG update to the item number might not have gone out to all retailers.

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