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    Why we’re changing up our yearly BIG RIDE and Ride Reports-

    Almost every year Mary and I go on a long ride, usually somewhere between 8,000 and 12,000 miles. Most of the time we are gone 40-50 days.

    In the last 9 years we’ve been documenting them in our “Ride Reports”. Below are links to a few of them-

    Alaska

    Bella Coola

    40 days following the Front Wheel

    Top Roads Out West

    This last year we sat down and analyzed how we’ve been going about seeing some of the most beautiful scenery and best riding roads that North America has to offer.

    We were a bit surprised by some of what we “discovered”, other things we knew already.

    Typical costs per day:

    Motel- $85

    Gas- $30

    Food- $30

    Misc.- $10 Ferries, tolls, tours, etc.

    Total- $155 a day

    $6200 to $7750 for one trip.

    There are variations, but this is pretty close to the average. This does not count wear & tear on the bike...maintenance, tires, etc.

    Typical logistical time spent per day: (this is the one that was most surprising)

    Locating a place to stay- 15 minutes

    Riding to motel- 10 minutes

    Check-in at motel- 15-45 minutes (average 30 minutes)

    Unloading bike into room- 15 minutes (multiple trips back & forth)

    Getting room set up- 15 minutes (charging devices, computer set up, unpacking)

    Going to store for food- 1 hour (finding store, riding there, shopping, riding back)

    Packing everything up &

    Loading up the bike in morning- 30 minutes

    Total Time- 2 hours 40 minutes PER DAY

    This is time that we could be riding, relaxing, enjoying sights, but instead the time is being eaten up by the daily logistics of food and a place to sleep..

    When we added up the time over a 40 day trip, it is a full 4.5 (24 hour) days of the trip, or over 10% being spent on the logistics of food and finding a place to sleep.

    It’s been decades since we’ve felt young enough to sleep under a picnic table on the side of the road.

    Besides the monetary costs (which are always a factor), as we get older, we realize our time is more valuable than anything else...and we’ve been spending a HUGE amount of our time on the logistics.

    Other things we discussed:

    We have chickens, fish, cats and a greenhouse at home. Being away for a 40-50 day chunk of time is not the greatest for all those, especially the greenhouse. It is also quite a load on the person we pay to take care of it all while we’re gone.

    Even though I work from the road every night, it is still a stress on the shop for me to be gone for that long.

    Doing two trips, and being gone for 20-25 days at one time would be much easier for everyone.

    BUT, the places we want to ride are usually 2-4 days riding away from where we live. So that is 4-8 days round trip just to get to where we want to go.

    (Yes, riding to get there is fun...we both love to ride, but we both much prefer riding in the woods, mountains, curves, along rivers, etc. than the interstate it takes to get to these places)

    SO, we are trying something new. Something that will:

    Allow for multiple short trips (20-25 days instead of 40-50 days) & just as satisfying

    Higher quality riding

    See More

    Lower Cost


    We’ll be able spend our time riding in the most scenic areas and most exciting roads.

    We’ll have an extra 2.5 hours a day to ride, enjoy the sights, explore new areas. This will give us an average of an extra 6 days riding time on a 25 day trip!

    We’ll be saving an average of $80 a day in expenses, plus eating better!

    Starting this year we are carrying our home with us.





    Yes, it’s a trailer. Full kitchen, Fridge w/ freezer, shower, toilet, bed, work area, and a place for the bike or trike!

    This gets us to where we want to ride faster and less expensively. It is also a home base when we get to good riding areas.

    No more motels, daily unpacking and packing back up, daily grocery store runs, etc.

    There will be times where we are gone from the base camp for a few days, staying in motels, but the bulk of our time will be rides out from base and back the same day.

    The big time & $ savings are:

    When booking it to a location, we can just pull into a rest stop and eat, shower, sleep, everything is self-contained.

    When we get to where the riding is good. Make base camp and ride out from there.

    We’ve already traveled quite a bit in it (with and without a bike) and have it pretty well wired.

    But this summer will be the first Big Rides that we’re using it.

    You’ll be able to see how it works out in our Ride Report coming up, which is going to cover the Black Hills area and the Grand Teton Mountain Range.

    Kevin
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    Quote Originally Posted by DK Custom Products View Post
    Why we’re changing up our yearly BIG RIDE and Ride Reports-

    Almost every year Mary and I go on a long ride, usually somewhere between 8,000 and 12,000 miles. Most of the time we are gone 40-50 days.

    In the last 9 years we’ve been documenting them in our “Ride Reports”. Below are links to a few of them-

    Alaska

    Bella Coola

    40 days following the Front Wheel

    Top Roads Out West

    This last year we sat down and analyzed how we’ve been going about seeing some of the most beautiful scenery and best riding roads that North America has to offer.

    We were a bit surprised by some of what we “discovered”, other things we knew already.

    Typical costs per day:

    Motel- $85

    Gas- $30

    Food- $30

    Misc.- $10 Ferries, tolls, tours, etc.

    Total- $155 a day

    $6200 to $7750 for one trip.

    There are variations, but this is pretty close to the average. This does not count wear & tear on the bike...maintenance, tires, etc.

    Typical logistical time spent per day: (this is the one that was most surprising)

    Locating a place to stay- 15 minutes

    Riding to motel- 10 minutes

    Check-in at motel- 15-45 minutes (average 30 minutes)

    Unloading bike into room- 15 minutes (multiple trips back & forth)

    Getting room set up- 15 minutes (charging devices, computer set up, unpacking)

    Going to store for food- 1 hour (finding store, riding there, shopping, riding back)

    Packing everything up &

    Loading up the bike in morning- 30 minutes

    Total Time- 2 hours 40 minutes PER DAY

    This is time that we could be riding, relaxing, enjoying sights, but instead the time is being eaten up by the daily logistics of food and a place to sleep..

    When we added up the time over a 40 day trip, it is a full 4.5 (24 hour) days of the trip, or over 10% being spent on the logistics of food and finding a place to sleep.

    It’s been decades since we’ve felt young enough to sleep under a picnic table on the side of the road.

    Besides the monetary costs (which are always a factor), as we get older, we realize our time is more valuable than anything else...and we’ve been spending a HUGE amount of our time on the logistics.

    Other things we discussed:

    We have chickens, fish, cats and a greenhouse at home. Being away for a 40-50 day chunk of time is not the greatest for all those, especially the greenhouse. It is also quite a load on the person we pay to take care of it all while we’re gone.

    Even though I work from the road every night, it is still a stress on the shop for me to be gone for that long.

    Doing two trips, and being gone for 20-25 days at one time would be much easier for everyone.

    BUT, the places we want to ride are usually 2-4 days riding away from where we live. So that is 4-8 days round trip just to get to where we want to go.

    (Yes, riding to get there is fun...we both love to ride, but we both much prefer riding in the woods, mountains, curves, along rivers, etc. than the interstate it takes to get to these places)

    SO, we are trying something new. Something that will:

    Allow for multiple short trips (20-25 days instead of 40-50 days) & just as satisfying

    Higher quality riding

    See More

    Lower Cost


    We’ll be able spend our time riding in the most scenic areas and most exciting roads.

    We’ll have an extra 2.5 hours a day to ride, enjoy the sights, explore new areas. This will give us an average of an extra 6 days riding time on a 25 day trip!

    We’ll be saving an average of $80 a day in expenses, plus eating better!

    Starting this year we are carrying our home with us.





    Yes, it’s a trailer. Full kitchen, Fridge w/ freezer, shower, toilet, bed, work area, and a place for the bike or trike!

    This gets us to where we want to ride faster and less expensively. It is also a home base when we get to good riding areas.

    No more motels, daily unpacking and packing back up, daily grocery store runs, etc.

    There will be times where we are gone from the base camp for a few days, staying in motels, but the bulk of our time will be rides out from base and back the same day.

    The big time & $ savings are:

    When booking it to a location, we can just pull into a rest stop and eat, shower, sleep, everything is self-contained.

    When we get to where the riding is good. Make base camp and ride out from there.

    We’ve already traveled quite a bit in it (with and without a bike) and have it pretty well wired.

    But this summer will be the first Big Rides that we’re using it.

    You’ll be able to see how it works out in our Ride Report coming up, which is going to cover the Black Hills area and the Grand Teton Mountain Range.

    Kevin
    You have my vote! I think its a great idea as long as you two are happy. Yes, everyone loves to read about the adventure but your health and happiness is more important.
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    That is GREAT

    You and Mary will have better quality riding time and you will always know where you are sleeping
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    I don't like it one bit..............

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    Now you just made me Jealous.................

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    Sounds like a plan! Not to 'diss the Great Plains states, but going west out of Red Banks, once you pass the Ozarks there's a whole lot of flat until you get to the Rockies. Riding West across the Great Plains into a 45 MPH Southwest headwind where you have to hang your left cheek off the seat to stay on the bike once is an adventure. Twice (or more) is tiresome!! Enjoy the ride.

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    Great idea. I have been looking for a rig to hold my trike for over 2 years now. My trike is a full 10 feet long plus maybe an extra couple inches to 10' 2" long. It's hard to find a hauler with a garage larger then 10'. Plus, I will be living in the rig so I really don't want my trike in my living area. The search continues almost daily.

    Hope to run into you somewhere, sometime once I retired...

    Can't wait to read about your next adventure!!

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    Jo Ann and I extremely happy for for you guys, there's nothing like your own bed at the end of the day. I can't understand why anyone would give you flack over this development, it's a great opportunity for you both to continue doing what you like with less hassle. Best of luck and looking forward to your travels.
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    Kevin, here is a link to a real nice place to camp

    There used to be a back road out of here to Spearfish Canyon

    https://www.cityofspearfish.com/depa...ound/index.php
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    Looks good to me Kevin! Can't wait to see pics from you and Mary's new adventures!
    "I don't need a map. I still have a road in front of me!"

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    Kevin, any way you could post a profile picture & some basic specs, length weight.

    My son has a 5th. wheel toy hauler he hauls his HD to all the events he attends.

    I've been considering a small toy hauler, 18-20 ft. I have to get a truck also.

    Are you using Mary's truck?
    2017 Harley Davidson Freewheeler (107 cu.in. vivid black).

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    What people think shouldn't concern you. Do what makes you happy. That's it, its your life. Quite a few years ago I tried something similar. Didn't work out for me. Everytime a bike passed I wished I was on mine. Then when we would ride around we always seemed to end up 100 or so miles from camp. Then I'd think to myself what the hell am I doing, backtracking when I could just keep going on the bike. So yea I get grumpy when I'm not travelin by bike.

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    just one question ... does the trike fit in the trailer????

    Been giving some thought to the Ark and your neck of the woods ... I'm thinking the trike on my trailer might be the way to go too. Air condition in the truck, keep the miles off the trike, can do more miles a day in the truck .. Lots of advantages ... although, I like the thought of the ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidecarbill View Post
    What people think shouldn't concern you. Do what makes you happy. That's it, its your life. Quite a few years ago I tried something similar. Didn't work out for me. Everytime a bike passed I wished I was on mine. Then when we would ride around we always seemed to end up 100 or so miles from camp. Then I'd think to myself what the hell am I doing, backtracking when I could just keep going on the bike. So yea I get grumpy when I'm not travelin by bike.
    Same here.......will continue to ride in the wind as long as we are able,

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    Kevin it appears that you and Mary have reached a most logical conclusion, and continuing to do what you both love, and enjoying it more, doesn't get any better than that, kudos to you both. Look at the exposure you get for DK with that fancy trailer, that's worth a lot to the company, miles of smiles as I see it, get where you're going, park and ride, even makes me feel good this morning over coffee.

    Reading your analytical post makes me realize that my days are numbered in doing what I do, I'm 86 as most know here, my bride is 78, the trip distances is becoming a struggle in many ways, so we too must consider how we solve this problem. I have considered a Canam Spyder RTL which will give us a more comfortable ride, but then, that too has it's negatives. Wishing you both the very best on the 'new trail'.

    Bill

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidecarbill View Post
    What people think shouldn't concern you. Do what makes you happy. That's it, its your life. Quite a few years ago I tried something similar. Didn't work out for me. Everytime a bike passed I wished I was on mine. Then when we would ride around we always seemed to end up 100 or so miles from camp. Then I'd think to myself what the hell am I doing, backtracking when I could just keep going on the bike. So yea I get grumpy when I'm not travelin by bike.
    I agree that you don't have to explain to anyone, but I did enjoy reading the breakdown of the reason behind this decision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by radismukes View Post
    You have my vote! I think its a great idea as long as you two are happy. Yes, everyone loves to read about the adventure but your health and happiness is more important.
    Thanks man!

    I think our Ride Reports will be even better! We'll have more time to ride, and be more relaxed!

    We'll see how it works out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Klarich View Post
    That is GREAT

    You and Mary will have better quality riding time and you will always know where you are sleeping
    Yes AND Yes, you're absolutely right!

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    Smart move makes sense........
    Thanks man!

    Quote Originally Posted by vwbug72501 View Post
    Sounds like a plan! Not to 'diss the Great Plains states, but going west out of Red Banks, once you pass the Ozarks there's a whole lot of flat until you get to the Rockies. Riding West across the Great Plains into a 45 MPH Southwest headwind where you have to hang your left cheek off the seat to stay on the bike once is an adventure. Twice (or more) is tiresome!! Enjoy the ride.
    Yep, from here to there, we traveled it many a time on a bike and a trike. I would not trade the memories. But you can only do that long, flat, straight 1500+ miles, one way, so many times before you long to spend your time riding in more scenic, more twisty locales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DblTrbl View Post
    Great idea. I have been looking for a rig to hold my trike for over 2 years now. My trike is a full 10 feet long plus maybe an extra couple inches to 10' 2" long. It's hard to find a hauler with a garage larger then 10'. Plus, I will be living in the rig so I really don't want my trike in my living area. The search continues almost daily.

    Hope to run into you somewhere, sometime once I retired...

    Can't wait to read about your next adventure!!
    Thanks man!

    Yeah, the Tri-Glide is a bit over 9 feet and barely fits...and of course, what we have would not work for daily living.

    I've seen some where the garage is 10 feet and then it is a sliding door into living area, so just a few inches into there would probably not be intrusive.

    Of course, you're still young! You can build one out of a cargo trailer to meet your exact needs. I almost did that, but it would have taken too much time...which is what I'm trying to save!

    First Ride Report coming soon...hope it all works out as planned!

    Definitely hope our paths cross out on the road somewhere!

    Quote Originally Posted by Zammy View Post
    Jo Ann and I extremely happy for for you guys, there's nothing like your own bed at the end of the day. I can't understand why anyone would give you flack over this development, it's a great opportunity for you both to continue doing what you like with less hassle. Best of luck and looking forward to your travels.
    Thank you both!

    Oh, I gave myself plenty of heartache over it. Up until this point I have only ever had 2 bikes on a trailer, one time each.

    Once was my Road King. I had a warranty appointment and it was snowing, so I put it on a trailer and took it up.

    The other was when we took 3 bikes to Little Sturgis. I rode one and Mary pulled the other 2 on a trailer.

    Self-inflicted bias.

    But you're right, we'll be able to do more of what we love and it will be much less hassle!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Klarich View Post
    Kevin, here is a link to a real nice place to camp

    There used to be a back road out of here to Spearfish Canyon

    https://www.cityofspearfish.com/depa...ound/index.php
    Thanks man! I know that is one of the places Mary is looking at.

    Quote Originally Posted by ol' school View Post
    Looks good to me Kevin! Can't wait to see pics from you and Mary's new adventures!
    Thank you!

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    Default Great idea...here's our take on the problem

    My spouse and I have done the RV trips route for several years and have decided that it's no longer for us. We like hotels and usually plan on staying a few days in each place. So, I found a like-new Aluma TK-1 trike trailer which will carry our TG just fine. We have lots of luggage space in our Subaru Outback with the 3.6L engine, and pulling the trailer is no problem. When we get to our destination, five minutes unloading the trike and we're ready to ride. For that matter, if we find a nice route to ride during the day, parking the car and riding the bike for a couple of hours is an option, too.

    Thanks for sharing, and ride safe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDO View Post
    Kevin, any way you could post a profile picture & some basic specs, length weight.

    My son has a 5th. wheel toy hauler he hauls his HD to all the events he attends.

    I've been considering a small toy hauler, 18-20 ft. I have to get a truck also.

    Are you using Mary's truck?
    It is a Freedom Blast 17BLSE. I'm going to post some pics shortly.

    Hitch Weight:

    508 lb.

    GVWR:

    5900 lb.

    UVW

    3594 lb.

    CCC

    2306 lb.

    Exterior Length:

    20' 4"

    Exterior Height:

    10' 3"

    Exterior Width:

    96"

    Fresh Water:

    49 gal.

    Gray Water:

    33 gal.

    Black Water:

    33 gal.

    Awning Size:

    12'



    We are using Mary's Heavy Duty, Long Wheelbase, F150 with the Trailer Tow Package (not to be confused with the F150 Trailer Two Package) to pull it. I've learned a ton about towing, and to get a stable comfortable tow, one needs to have enough truck for the trailer.

    Here's the specs on her truck-



    Quote Originally Posted by Sidecarbill View Post
    What people think shouldn't concern you. Do what makes you happy. That's it, its your life. Quite a few years ago I tried something similar. Didn't work out for me. Everytime a bike passed I wished I was on mine. Then when we would ride around we always seemed to end up 100 or so miles from camp. Then I'd think to myself what the hell am I doing, backtracking when I could just keep going on the bike. So yea I get grumpy when I'm not travelin by bike.
    I hear ya. Yes, there are some downsides. There will be times we're towing thru a nice riding area and I will want to be out on the bike. But, I'll remind myself that I'm giving up those good 75 miles in exchange for not having to ride 1000 flat, straight interstate miles. lol

    I hope it works.

    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzyWuzHe View Post
    just one question ... does the trike fit in the trailer????

    Been giving some thought to the Ark and your neck of the woods ... I'm thinking the trike on my trailer might be the way to go too. Air condition in the truck, keep the miles off the trike, can do more miles a day in the truck .. Lots of advantages ... although, I like the thought of the ride.
    Yep, barely fits. Here are some pics-



    Can still open the fridge and freezer with it in there...that's important!



    That said, if I were you I would ride it...you've never ridden it before? Gotta ride every road at least once...it's not boring the first few times. lol

    BUT, that said, it can save a ton of time and money.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter A. View Post
    Same here.......will continue to ride in the wind as long as we are able,

    as the saying goes TO EACH HIS OWN!

    I hear ya!

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    Good thinking!

    Not to rain on your parade, but the places where you drop your trailer tailgate will likely cost something, but it will likely be less than hotel/motel stays.

    A generator for boondocks or where power is unavailable, will add something.

    Food, drink, etc. still eat up funds.

    Here are some websites that might help you cut overnighting costs. They're mostly for the RV crowd, but I'd bet you could use some with your "camper":

    https://www.boondockerswelcome.com/

    https://www.freecampgrounds.com/

    https://www.tripsavvy.com/find-low-cost-places-to-park-your-rv-2972910

    https://www.frugal-rv-travel.com/Overnight-RV-Parking.html

    Guess you'll have to copy and paste to open the links. Not sure why, as I thought I had that glitch figured out. Sorry.


    Travelling will still be more expensive but short trips will help cut costs.

    Good luck, and keep posting pix along the way!
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