Didn't Bite On CVO Trike

[rhino 2]

People at your age shouldn't be playing with fireworks anyway. The VA and county run hospitals have enough issues to deal without y'all adding to the conflict. Sheesh ...........

More money ......... Higher taxes ..............

People my age didn't get to be my Age being stupid .... I'm not holding a red plastic cup when lighting the fuse........

[PTR]

"Got that right !" Go figure .............

Love the hat Michael.

[MikeyTX]

Gal that posted them for sale on line sold out all four colors within a day and a half. Imagine that. Glad I bought more than one.

[PTR]

Gal that posted them for sale on line sold out all four colors within a day and a half. Imagine that. Glad I bought more than one.

They sell a lot of Trump stuff at the Daytona Flea Market. They always have a line. I bought a lit sign for me front window there.

[bikerbillone]

And therein lies the problem imho. I don't need the Mo-CO. In retrospect, I should have bought the non tour pack Goldwing. Triked it and called it a day.

Mickey, lovin' your cap.

[MikeyTX]

Glad I live in a red state/community. I can wear it in public without issue, unlike in NYC, LA or, SF. Daughter, hubby and, the g kids moved out of the Berkeley, CA area short while ago because of the snowflake population.

[PTR]

glad i live in a red state/community. I can wear it in public without issue, unlike in nyc, la or, sf. Daughter, hubby and, the g kids moved out of the berkeley, ca area short while ago because of the snowflake population.

they all should leave and see where the snowflakes end up.

[PTR]

To those who have purchased a CVO trike congrats and hope you get thousands of miles of fun.But for me its a no go,for 20-25 k difference for my 17 i can do a ton of upgrades that will make my 17 run circles around the 117 plus a ton of bling.

You said " who have purchased a CVO" . I agree with "a CVO" you should buy two.

[PTR]

I look for the demise of the Mo-Co within the next ten yrs. They simply cannot seem to connect with the times. The younger ones simply aren't into the so called lifestyle. The Mo-Co needs to go back to basics and leave the clothing, the bling, etc to the aftermarket. This trying to be everything for everyone just isn't working imho.

If Harley stops selling the clothing, the bling, etc and leaves it to the aftermarket they will go belly up. IMO That where they are making the money to keep the doors open.

[ultrafxr]

If Harley stops selling the clothing, the bling, etc and leaves it to the aftermarket they will go belly up. IMO That where they are making the money to keep the doors open.

I think you are right on Peter. There is a ton of profit in the motorclothes and other non-vehicular items. H-D can't make it without that.

[jonfjr]

If Harley stops selling the clothing, the bling, etc and leaves it to the aftermarket they will go belly up. IMO That where they are making the money to keep the doors open.

You guys are correct.

Of course other OEM's are also facing issues with selling their latest bikes and keeping the ship floated.

Yesterday I was in a dealer (HD) near Seattle as my buddy wanted to buy a new Road Glide. I counted less than 8 customers in the store around 1pm.

Weather plays a significant part in how consumers view or want to purchase certain items and as my buddy pointed out to me "buying a bike" is a "want" and not a need!

[ISP-FL]

They are basically turning into a retail clothing store at many locations.

Went to Rock Star Harley Sunday (Ft Myers). They had free beer and a Rolling Stones band playing. Four or five salesman hanging around. Didn't see anyone really even looking like they were interested in buying a bike. A few gals buying shirts and stuff. A salesman who actually sold me my 2016 TG (he didn't have a clue I was a prior customer) caught us looking at a CVO Trike. He came over to make small talk. My buddy asked him the price and he quoted us $59,995.00.

I asked him why they would add $10,000 over MSRP and he said "because the CVO Trikes are extremely hard to get". When we told him Four Rivers Harley were selling the ones they were getting in for $49,995 he didn't know what to say except that they would make us a good trade offer.

What really shocked me was the electric Harley sitting next to the CVO Trike. We asked him the price on it and he said it was $30,000.00. The only thing I could think of to say was OMG. I walked out and grabbed another of their free beers.

[jonfjr]

They are basically turning into a retail clothing store at many locations.

Went to Rock Star Harley Sunday (Ft Myers). They had free beer and a Rolling Stones band playing. Four or five salesman hanging around. Didn't see anyone really even looking like they were interested in buying a bike. A few gals buying shirts and stuff. A salesman who actually sold me my 2016 TG (he didn't have a clue I was a prior customer) caught us looking at a CVO Trike. He came over to make small talk. My buddy asked him the price and he quoted us $59,995.00.

I asked him why they would add $10,000 over MSRP and he said "because the CVO Trikes are extremely hard to get". When we told him Four Rivers Harley were selling the ones they were getting in for $49,995 he didn't know what to say except that they would make us a good trade offer.

What really shocked me was the electric Harley sitting next to the CVO Trike. We asked him the price on it and he said it was $30,000.00. The only thing I could think of to say was OMG. I walked out and grabbed another of their free beers.

What would be interesting to see is if the free beer and live band were to take a leave of absence, what would the foot traffic be like? I think it's great to have these freebies and all but this may be confusing to first time buyers, who knows!

I nearly fell off my perch when I asked what price the "new Livewire was". $30K for an 80 mile range bike,even a Tesla looks like a bargain

[Jack Klarich]

They are basically turning into a retail clothing store at many locations.

Went to Rock Star Harley Sunday (Ft Myers). They had free beer and a Rolling Stones band playing. Four or five salesman hanging around. Didn't see anyone really even looking like they were interested in buying a bike. A few gals buying shirts and stuff. A salesman who actually sold me my 2016 TG (he didn't have a clue I was a prior customer) caught us looking at a CVO Trike. He came over to make small talk. My buddy asked him the price and he quoted us $59,995.00.

I asked him why they would add $10,000 over MSRP and he said "because the CVO Trikes are extremely hard to get". When we told him Four Rivers Harley were selling the ones they were getting in for $49,995 he didn't know what to say except that they would make us a good trade offer.

What really shocked me was the electric Harley sitting next to the CVO Trike. We asked him the price on it and he said it was $30,000.00. The only thing I could think of to say was OMG. I walked out and grabbed another of their free beers.

What would be interesting to see is if the free beer and live band were to take a leave of absence, what would the foot traffic be like? I think it's great to have these freebies and all but this may be confusing to first time buyers, who knows!

I nearly fell off my perch when I asked what price the "new Livewire was". $30K for an 80 mile range bike,even a Tesla looks like a bargain

It is all about marketing now days. Never mind all of us old timers that never left the Motor Company even in the bad days of the AMF years that seem to be slowly coming round for a second bite

[PTR]

They are basically turning into a retail clothing store at many locations.

Went to Rock Star Harley Sunday (Ft Myers). They had free beer and a Rolling Stones band playing. Four or five salesman hanging around. Didn't see anyone really even looking like they were interested in buying a bike. A few gals buying shirts and stuff. A salesman who actually sold me my 2016 TG (he didn't have a clue I was a prior customer) caught us looking at a CVO Trike. He came over to make small talk. My buddy asked him the price and he quoted us $59,995.00.

I asked him why they would add $10,000 over MSRP and he said "because the CVO Trikes are extremely hard to get". When we told him Four Rivers Harley were selling the ones they were getting in for $49,995 he didn't know what to say except that they would make us a good trade offer.

What really shocked me was the electric Harley sitting next to the CVO Trike. We asked him the price on it and he said it was $30,000.00. The only thing I could think of to say was OMG. I walked out and grabbed another of their free beers.

I own a business so when I walk into another business I look at their cost to keep the doors open. Looking at the manpower a dealership has at first glance looks costly. If you look a little deeper you will find that everyone is 100% commision based. I don't know how the techs are paid but the complete sales force works 100% commision from parts, clothing to bike sales. Most of these jobs are a revolving door of new employees that never will see a great paycheck or health benefits. The dealership only pays floor plan interest, utilities, mortgage and a few other unseen costs. I wish I could get that deal.

As for the CVO prices most are asking 10k over but I would love to know what they actually end up selling them for. I paid sticker for both of mine but it took some work and being ready to buy when they have the weak moment.

[bikerbillone]

Those prices make the 2020 Spyder RTL look like a bargain sale item.

[rhino 2]

I own a business so when I walk into another business I look at their cost to keep the doors open. Looking at the manpower a dealership has at first glance looks costly. If you look a little deeper you will find that everyone is 100% commision based. I don't know how the techs are paid but the complete sales force works 100% commision from parts, clothing to bike sales. Most of these jobs are a revolving door of new employees that never will see a great paycheck or health benefits. The dealership only pays floor plan interest, utilities, mortgage and a few other unseen costs. I wish I could get that deal.

As for the CVO prices most are asking 10k over but I would love to know what they actually end up selling them for. I paid sticker for both of mine but it took some work and being ready to buy when they have the weak moment.

Most dealers pay salespeople and parts people; Salary Plus commission...

The mechanics get a Salary .....But if they beat the book hour on a job they get extra..Used to be called over time....Or bonus ....

[PosseRider]

That extra 10 grand was used to pay for the Band & free beer. O yeah, our dealer sells for MSRP. no add on, & no free beer.

[PTR]

Most dealers pay salespeople and parts people; Salary Plus commission...

The mechanics get a Salary .....But if they beat the book hour on a job they get extra..Used to be called over time....Or bonus ....

Bob, I disagree. In the car sales world your right at some dealers but everywhere in Florida that I know of pay their Harley salesmen 100% commission. I hired the Harley salesman that sold me my first Harley and have learned a lot of the behind the scene world. The scams, games, and the pay. They are allowed to take a draw against future sales but have to pay it back as sales come. I am not sure about the tech's because I never asked but I will tomorrow. I have a hard time believing the dealership would be fair to some of their employees and screw the rest. Even the girl selling you the t-shirt to the parts people selling over priced parts don't get a salary, 100% commission. Watch the revolving door at most dealers, if you don't have the skill or something to close the deal you will starve.

Don't come to Florida to buy a bike during bike week, ALL the prices are jacked up and the dealers make a killing. I have been personally told not to buy a bike I wanted until after the bike week because of the markup. If everyone got together and boycotted the dealer's during bike week they would never do it again. They depend on the sales during that week to make up for the slow times during the year.

The day I went to pick up my deposit on the CVO Tri Glide that my local dealer tried to screw me on the owner was there with his 1.5 million$ motorcoach and matching toy box.

[Jack Klarich]

Bob, I disagree. In the car sales world your right at some dealers but everywhere in Florida that I know of pay their Harley salesmen 100% commission. I hired the Harley salesman that sold me my first Harley and have learned a lot of the behind the scene world. The scams, games, and the pay. They are allowed to take a draw against future sales but have to pay it back as sales come. I am not sure about the tech's because I never asked but I will tomorrow. I have a hard time believing the dealership would be fair to some of their employees and screw the rest. Even the girl selling you the t-shirt to the parts people selling over priced parts don't get a salary, 100% commission. Watch the revolving door at most dealers, if you don't have the skill or something to close the deal you will starve.

Don't come to Florida to buy a bike during bike week, ALL the prices are jacked up and the dealers make a killing. I have been personally told not to buy a bike I wanted until after the bike week because of the markup. If everyone got together and boycotted the dealer's during bike week they would never do it again. They depend on the sales during that week to make up for the slow times during the year.

The day I went to pick up my deposit on the CVO Tri Glide that my local dealer tried to screw me on the owner was there with his 1.5 million$ motorcoach and matching toy box.

My sales guy here in Jax Florida gets $500.00 on a new bike sale and $250.00 on a used bike