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Thread: Harley Davidson sent me a request for "Feedback"

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    Default Harley Davidson sent me a request for "Feedback"

    You may have remembered my debacle with my local dealer over the GPS map updates. As a review, the local Dealer didn't even know the maps could be updated.

    Here my responses:

    Initial comments after asking if I would recommend my friend purchase a motorcycle from this dealer, rated 5 out of 10:

    The service department has become iffy at best, I'm not going around telling people this, IE, bad mouthing them. But I do feel a deterioration of this department. I could not in good conscience recommend purchasing a motorcycle from a dealer that can't service it.

    A personal experience with this happened recently. I have outdated maps in my 2014 Tri Glide's GPS. Since the Harley process to update these maps only supports IBM PC format computers (even though radio updates works fine on my Mac), I asked the service manager to make an appointment to have the service department do this for me.

    He was not even aware that the maps could be updated. Let me say that again. He was not even aware that the maps could be updated. He actually told me to go to the parts department, maybe they could help.

    I had talked to a service writer last summer about doing this and had actually made an appointment to do this but had to cancel due to an emergency at home. I am caught up now and wanted to do this before a trip in April. That service writer was no longer there. Doesn't give me a warm feeling that I should allow this service department to do service on my $30K+ trike.

    Another instance of less than stellar service was very recently I called to make an appointment to and get a quote for bleeding/flushing the brake lines and clutch line, I had to leave a message, no one answered the phone. The service manager called me back about 3 hours later. When I asked him for an approximate cost to do this, he couldn't tell me. He did quote me his service hourly rate of $115/Hour. He told me he would call me back. That was a week or so ago. He hasn't called back. I am looking for an independent mechanic to do this, but, with the Corona stuff, not having much luck.

    Should be noted here, this was during Feb in Colorado, the service department was not very busy. In fact, I believe the service writer I had talked to last summer was on seasonal lay off.

    Supplemental Comments due to a rating 0f 5 out of 10 on the actual rear that didn't happen:

    Should be noted. Neither of my service needs have been addressed by the dealer. The service department was totally in the dark about updating GPS maps. I actually had to purchase a IBM format PC to do it myself. Pretty sure that was way more expensive than having the dealer do it. But, more reliable since I now put that control in my hands, not the dealer's.

    As for the bleeding/flushing of brake lines and clutch line, I still haven't received a call back from the service department as to the cost of this service. I've decided to put this off until after the Corona Virus Pandemic.

    Not sure why I would receive a request for feedback for service items that couldn't or haven't been performed. But, since I did, I am giving you my honest opinion of how I perceive the service department.

    I have been using this dealer (only one for 200 miles) for 15 years. At 66 years old, I have also opted to do most of my service myself as I've gotten to the point where I just don't have a warm feeling about my local dealers service department anymore.

    I hope I made myself clear that I'm not bashing the dealer. But I'm here to tell you, if I had a customer that had these kind of feelings about my company, I would certainly want to know.

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    I think you did the right thing in giving them an honest feedback Alan. Especially since you made it clear that you weren't trying to "bash" the dealer, just calling it as it is. I would have done the same.

    BTW, I imagine that you know that the Rocky Mtn HOG rally will be held there in Grand Junction this year. Presuming it doesn't get cancelled because of the pandemic! My wife and I won't be attending this year, we were rather disappointed with last year's rally. But it was nice to meet up with you there!

    An update on the issue we were having at the HOG rally last year. We started having the same problem (high engine temp, etc) on a trip to Gatlinburg TN in September. This time the water pump actually did fail. I have to give a thumbs up to the great crew at Smokey Mountain H-D in Maryville TN. I called them and explained the problem. They said bring it in, we'll get it done right away. True to their word, 3 hours after we got there, the new and improved water pump was installed! Fortunately my H-D ESP covered all but the $50 deductible. Needless to say I gave them a great review when I got the feedback survey.

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    "Fuzz" it is what it is the mothership needs to know about poor representatives. Especially now just sayin... Ride safe Fred
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    I would have done the same thing you did Alan

    I too had a bad experience @ local dealer and took time to complain both to the management and corporate

    This did 2 things, putting the local dealership on notice I could easily go to another dealer, and 2 letting the Mothership know of a failing connection with said dealer

    I fully expected NO answer from either, tho to my surprise I got 2 credit vouchers, 1 from the local dealer and 1 from the MOCO
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    Alan, that is a great response. Just what the moco needs to hear more of imo. Any your writing / communication skills are par excellence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by v4bob49 View Post
    I think you did the right thing in giving them an honest feedback Alan. Especially since you made it clear that you weren't trying to "bash" the dealer, just calling it as it is. I would have done the same.

    BTW, I imagine that you know that the Rocky Mtn HOG rally will be held there in Grand Junction this year. Presuming it doesn't get cancelled because of the pandemic! My wife and I won't be attending this year, we were rather disappointed with last year's rally. But it was nice to meet up with you there!

    An update on the issue we were having at the HOG rally last year. We started having the same problem (high engine temp, etc) on a trip to Gatlinburg TN in September. This time the water pump actually did fail. I have to give a thumbs up to the great crew at Smokey Mountain H-D in Maryville TN. I called them and explained the problem. They said bring it in, we'll get it done right away. True to their word, 3 hours after we got there, the new and improved water pump was installed! Fortunately my H-D ESP covered all but the $50 deductible. Needless to say I gave them a great review when I got the feedback survey.
    I don't normally do the HOG Rallies.. not my thing ... too much drinking, not enough riding ... LOL

    Quote Originally Posted by ultrafxr View Post
    Alan, that is a great response. Just what the moco needs to hear more of imo. Any your writing / communication skills are par excellence.
    Just felt like I'd want to know if someone had similar views about my company.

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    Either the MoCo is getting nervous or they had a AHA moment,this is something that should have happened several years ago.Getting feed back good or bad is what any company needs to hear,now will they have to sift thru frivolous complaints sure but to build a better product you need to know what the consumer thinks.

    Sounds like you handled it the correct way and glad you got something for your trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mykneesbehurtin View Post
    Sounds like you handled it the correct way and glad you got something for your trouble.
    Hmmm ... not sure what I got ... LOL ... but at this stage, I'm looking for anything that keeps the brain from going off the reservation. Mom is driving me crazy because she can't "go" anywhere ... she would go for a walk, but, still raining intermittently ... so she opt's out.

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    Sorry to hear of your dealership. Hopefully your well written feedback will motivate Corporate to light a fire under the owner to improve things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzyWuzHe View Post
    Hmmm ... not sure what I got ... LOL ... but at this stage, I'm looking for anything that keeps the brain from going off the reservation. Mom is driving me crazy because she can't "go" anywhere ... she would go for a walk, but, still raining intermittently ... so she opt's out.
    Opps LOL,ive been in lock down too long,must have been thinking of another post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mykneesbehurtin View Post
    Opps LOL,ive been in lock down too long,must have been thinking of another post.
    Funny how that very thing seems to be happening all over the world ... at least mine.

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    I'll be curios what feedback you get.

    I just purchased a 2020 trike and my issue is they cant get the HD connect to work. Said they fixed it, but I cant get my app to recognize my vin. Now they want it back again. I bought it a month ago. My question to HD will be if the 1 year free service will be extended since, I cant even get my bike to the dealer now since PA is in business shut down. I could lose 2 months on my 1 year.

    I could not even find an email address to send my question to...

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