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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee H. Mann View Post
    WHOA !!!!! You are going to remove just about any drive-ability and need a football field to turn around.

    Stretching it out is going to put more stress on the swingarm and make it top-heavy.

    6 degrees is maximum with 2-3" longer forks should satisfy handing and comfort.

    Do you have a Custom Sportster ?
    the extra stress on the swing arm is not enough to worry about by any means... more on the neck than swing arm but i wouldnt worry about that either

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mek5o View Post
    I was thiking of 14 degrees with 6 over tubes would that be too much?
    okay now i am sure you were not talking about changing the frame....

    i layed it out in an autocad file i dont know your bikes rake and trail

    for example i started with 30 deg rake and 5 inches of trail and 10 deg in the tree and 6 inch tube i came up with -1. inch

    if you know your rake and trail i will do it again if you like

    which is a death trap!!!!

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    My builder told me when I asked about raking:

    Out of all the rakes that I have done NO ONE has come back and said please change it back........BUT 90% have come back and say please rake this out for me...

    I have a 5.5% rake....... it works!

    Ronnie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burnerboy View Post
    My builder told me when I asked about raking:

    Out of all the rakes that I have done NO ONE has come back and said please change it back........BUT 90% have come back and say please rake this out for me...

    I have a 5.5% rake....... it works!

    Ronnie
    some people dont get confused actually the term used is "degrees" not "%"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mek5o View Post
    I was thiking of 14 degrees with 6 over tubes would that be too much?
    You still wanting to do that?

    I saw where you said just triple trees with no frame modifications.

    Adding 14 degrees looks to me like a dangerous proposition, the 6 over tubes will level the trike, but you are gonna go from trail to lead, the front wheel will want to turn like that shopping cart when you back up.

    Lead would be when the tire contact patch is ahead of or in front of the imaginary point where that line through the steering stem intersects the roadway. You want some trail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrystalPistol View Post
    You still wanting to do that?

    I saw where you said just triple trees with no frame modifications.

    Adding 14 degrees looks to me like a dangerous proposition, the 6 over tubes will level the trike, but you are gonna go from trail to lead, the front wheel will want to turn like that shopping cart when you back up.
    the illustration is not good representation for this case as still showing trail not lead but at 14 degrees, according to my figures would be a little lead as you say but shopping cart act will play going forward not back... which is why i said it would be dangerous

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    Quote Originally Posted by stacebg View Post
    some people dont get confused actually the term used is "degrees" not "%"
    OOPS! Your correct! Thanks! (5.5 degrees) yep, that does indeed make more sense!

    Ronnie

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    Quote Originally Posted by stacebg View Post
    the illustration is not good representation for this case as still showing trail not lead … etc …
    Well, yeah, but but it was really only meant to show in what direction one was headed with these kits. It isn't to scale, but I thought it would help illustrate … and with imagination, understand why going too far (like 14 more degrees and 6 inch over tubes) is not a good idea.

    For anyone … to clarify my shopping cart illustration, reach down and turn the casters 180 degrees so the wheel is furthest ahead in the "lead", then push the cart towards the shopping aisle and see the casters immediately try to turn back around to "trail".
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrystalPistol View Post
    Well, yeah, but but it was really only meant to show in what direction one was headed with these kits. It isn't to scale, but I thought it would help illustrate and with imagination, understand why going too far (like 14 more degrees and 6 inch over tubes) is not a good idea.

    For anyone to clarify my shopping cart illustration, reach down and turn the casters 180 degrees so the wheel is furthest ahead in the "lead", then push the cart towards the shopping aisle and see the casters immediately try to turn back around to "trail".
    Thanks for the info. its been very helpful.

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