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    Quote Originally Posted by trikermutha View Post
    They are Still have problems with compensators.. That was the last straw for me and move on from the TRI.

    If I had to replace another comp I would go with the Baker Built . The Harleys get revised and revised and still dont get the oil in the critical areas. JMO..
    Give them a chance , they only been at 117 years they will get it ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GARYD View Post
    Just turned 9500 miles and dealer said I need to replace the compensator. Dealer said about $500 to $600 does that seem correct? Doesn't really matter since the ESP will cover it. Just curious.

    Also, does 9500 miles on the clock but using the front brakes 90% of the time seem wrong that the dealer says I need all new pads AND rotors? I think it's ridiculous.

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    imo 50% or so on the rear... i think of the these two big ass steam rollers... we need to stop all that rolling inertia as well as the trike..

    had an 88fl hardly ever used the front and with corvette brakes barely started to wear in 50k

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROAD DOG View Post
    My 2020 started making noise 6000 miles sounded like xtra parts in the primary , I bought a dark horse crank works man o war motor sprocket $500. & a hayden primary chain adjuster $120. Its a lot quieter seems to have more torque , The stock one has so many parts just in there clanking around , check out the dark horse , the screaming eagle one is not much better then stock , baker makes one that's pretty good , this one has a lot less pieces and its lighter . I will see how long it last ?
    Well ROAD DOG I jumped in and had the DH unit installed. Only got a few miles on it but I see what you mean about it feeling like more torque or maybe just tighter. The only noise I get is kind of a whirring sound. I still get a little backlash now and then but that may be my fault as it's so smooth and tight, I sometimes let the rpms drop to 2k or so. I don't think my cams like it there. Still need to put on some more miles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NHBAGGER View Post
    Well ROAD DOG I jumped in and had the DH unit installed. Only got a few miles on it but I see what you mean about it feeling like more torque or maybe just tighter. The only noise I get is kind of a whirring sound. I still get a little backlash now and then but that may be my fault as it's so smooth and tight, I sometimes let the rpms drop to 2k or so. I don't think my cams like it there. Still need to put on some more miles.
    mines still good , we have to get together for a ride I go to N H all the time ?

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    On one of my other Harley's I got tired of messing with primary issues so I bit the bullet and installed a 3" belt drive. I was amazed with how much easier it shifted and how smooth it was. The cool factor was good also. I wonder if one is available for the TG.

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    is the dark horse a direct replacement or do you have to change the stator cover

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    Quote Originally Posted by leonard View Post
    is the dark horse a direct replacement or do you have to change the stator cover
    on my 2020 it was a direct bolt on

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROAD DOG View Post
    mines still good , we have to get together for a ride I go to N H all the time ?
    That sounds good except we ride a little boring. All back roads and maybe a lunch stop.

    Today I noticed some backlash during compression braking. Wonder if part of it is cam related.

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    Check out Dark Horse website the man o war unit they make eliminates metal on metal with cushions like the rear belt drive comp sprocket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Chapman View Post
    Check out Dark Horse website the man o war unit they make eliminates metal on metal with cushions like the rear belt drive comp sprocket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by molokaimike View Post
    On one of my other Harley's I got tired of messing with primary issues so I bit the bullet and installed a 3" belt drive. I was amazed with how much easier it shifted and how smooth it was. The cool factor was good also. I wonder if one is available for the TG.
    I don't know if things have changed but years ago converting a primary to belt drive with a belt drive on the rear wheel caused nothing but grief with the tranny and clutch.

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    Default Man O War compensator noise

    I have few thousand miles on a man-o-war Darkhorse compensator that installed with a Hayden chain tensioner. At start up every thing is perfect. Quite shifting ,no decell clunking, still hard to find neutral but otherwise a great improvement over worn out screaming eagle. I have tried running heavy 100% synthetic primary oil and 100% synthetic ATF with similar results. When Engine and drivetrain heat up I have what sounds like gear lash from the transmission. I am also running 80/140 synthetic trans fluid which I found silences the noise of most 6 speed transmissions. I know Dark Horse says they have done there installs with the stock chain tensioners however I have not had issues with the Hayden auto tensioners on my other bikes.

    I talked to Darkhorse and asked there opinion as to the noise. They feel it is most likely coming from the transmission due to excess clearance with the gears in earlier models, mine being a 2013 twin cam. What has me confused is I don't recall hearing this prior to installing the new comp and don't recall it was an issue when running a Hayden tensioner on my 02 Ultra .

    Any input if anyone has had similar issues and fixes or if I have to just turn up the radio.

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    Any input if anyone has had similar issues and fixes or if I have to just turn up the radio.[/QUOTE] Ive heard good things about the Man O war and when the time comes wiil go that route. Is there a reason youre wedded to the Hayden? I think they're crap. I have a Baker on my Dyna but some people say those are crap too. No problems with mine. My M8 has the stock adjuster and thats the way it stays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Road Dog View Post
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    My M8 has the stock adjuster and thats the way it stays.[/QUOTE]

    Same here…..No problems with the stock one… Why look to reinvent the wheel ..
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    I see your point if all is good don't mess with it but my comp was worn out. The Dark Horse is really a reinvention of Harleys steadfast design. All the complaints I've read about the stock adjuster overtighting led to believe the Hayden was an answer to that. If I thought I could get 25,000 miles out of the stock parts I might considering going back to the original setup. Got 6 months to figure it out, to damn cold in the garage to wrench on it now.

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    IMO, HD has been trying to reinvent the wheel with too many set backs

    Go with what works, KISS ( keep it simple stupid)
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