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Reverse Motor TSB
Dropped off Trike today. No reverse, was able to “repair “ it temporarily by tapping with a hammer and punch. That got me reverse for a few more times. Service writer printed a TSB to give the tech. Revised reverse motor part number as of February? Also contained test/trouble shooting instructions. Still have 1 more year on esp so should only be out the deductible.
2016 Tri Glide and 2012 FLHTP
The latest info I know of is HD is now having their techs rebuild the motors in house, replacing only the parts they see as bad. HD took a blood bath on replacing the motors under warranty
Nuff Said," Were Burnin Daylight, Lets Ride"(Sober 37 years)
Current ride : 2021 FREEWHEELER M8, oldest ride 1960 FL
And when the warranty was over.....So did the customers....Originally Posted by Jack Klarich
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Sometimes a Cigar is Just a Cigar.....
2019 Tri-Glide.......
The trouble shooting diagnostics is fairly new for the techs. This goes along with HD replacing too many reverse motors under warranty. The TSB wants the techs to do a full check on the motor including voltage drop tests to make sure that the motor did fail
You can read the TSB here https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/20...47407-9999.pdf
Nuff Said," Were Burnin Daylight, Lets Ride"(Sober 37 years)
Current ride : 2021 FREEWHEELER M8, oldest ride 1960 FL
Service did say esp has been mandating rebuilding but he was going to try to get new part number approved.
Wait and see.
2016 Tri Glide and 2012 FLHTP
Best of luck, keep us informed
Nuff Said," Were Burnin Daylight, Lets Ride"(Sober 37 years)
Current ride : 2021 FREEWHEELER M8, oldest ride 1960 FL
I think the TSB for the new reverse motor part number is in addition to this TSB. I cannot find a copy online but think it is number 1508 , linked one is 1458.
2016 Tri Glide and 2012 FLHTP
Only thing I can say is don't hit new style starter type motors with a hammer. Many have ceramic magnets that can break when you tap on them.
I must be one of the lucky ones (just Jinxed myself) I put 46,000 miles on my 16, always used the reverse & NO problems. I keep seeing all the posts on peeps having trouble. What is the common denominator here ? Only had breaker pop one time. I had the E brake on.
Now I only have 7300 on my 20,so I guess time will tell.
2020 TriGlide Tahitian Teal aka (Hawaiian Hussy). Avon frt & Comfortred rear tires. ProAction frt & rear susp. RZ seat. DK floorboard extension & rear axle retainer kit with EBS, HD pull -back bars. Custom Dynamics front turn signals & Vent grill. All ,HD "Edge Cut " accessories.
Tap on brush holder/commutator end not motor body where field magnets are located. Brush holders known to corroded and brush springs cannot keep brushes in contact.
Old joke about a repairman who fixed a furnace by tapping on it with a hammer. When customer received bill for $100.00 he was outraged and demanded an itemized list of charges.
Repairman submitted the following,
Tapping with hammer $1.00
Knowing where to tap $99.00
🤣
2016 Tri Glide and 2012 FLHTP
The tapping creates a spark between the worn brushes and the commutator, this works like a band aide on a broken leg
Nuff Said," Were Burnin Daylight, Lets Ride"(Sober 37 years)
Current ride : 2021 FREEWHEELER M8, oldest ride 1960 FL
TSB 1508 gives techs the number 83388-C as the new part number for the reverse motor
Nuff Said," Were Burnin Daylight, Lets Ride"(Sober 37 years)
Current ride : 2021 FREEWHEELER M8, oldest ride 1960 FL
Exactly........The weak link on those motors [They are not starter motors] Are when water gets in and starts to corrode the carbon brushes....Had mine out a few times to clean.....The tapping creates a spark between the worn brushes and the commutator, this works like a band aide on a broken leg
Sometimes a Cigar is Just a Cigar.....
2019 Tri-Glide.......
Tap when no power is being applied. No sparks then. Yes it’s a bandaid but verifies/points you in the right direction for repairs. I wasn’t stuck anywhere but if you absolutely needed reverse this technique could give you the one shot you need.The tapping creates a spark between the worn brushes and the commutator, this works like a band aide on a broken leg
2016 Tri Glide and 2012 FLHTP
my 13 went 62k without issue. just quit replaced with mechanical works great
Stallion #406 // 2013 Tri-Glide
Reverse motor
Same here, Wife/I both have 2010 HD trikes and still have the orig. reverse motors - we rarely use them but i can count the number of times we have tripped the breaker......NOW as stated above HOPE I havenent jinxed us!I must be one of the lucky ones (just Jinxed myself) I put 46,000 miles on my 16, always used the reverse & NO problems. I keep seeing all the posts on peeps having trouble. What is the common denominator here ? Only had breaker pop one time. I had the E brake on.
Now I only have 7300 on my 20,so I guess time will tell.
Last edited by Peter A.; 08-06-2020 at 09:27 PM. Reason: Add line
Water is the enemy on these motors.
Is the new part number a better design
to seal against water infiltration? I’ve been caught in some terrible weather.
Ridden hours in the rain. Don’t know if others who have commented they have no issues have also been as wet or not.
Message from dealer says motor on order , expect delivery today. Will see if paperwork indicates replacement with new part number or not.
2016 Tri Glide and 2012 FLHTP
They added a drain hole to let the water out......But did not or could not seal it to keep the water out in the first place......
Sometimes a Cigar is Just a Cigar.....
2019 Tri-Glide.......
Starters and electric motors have been vented for years, 1 to vent internal heat, and 2 to keep water out. The # 2 has not worked good in a lot of applications mostly depending on placement of the vent
Nuff Said," Were Burnin Daylight, Lets Ride"(Sober 37 years)
Current ride : 2021 FREEWHEELER M8, oldest ride 1960 FL
OK, the reverse on my 2015 Freewheeler has gone out. I have always used it very sparingly. Over the years it has tripped the breaker a couple of times but I have checked the breaker and all of the wires for loose connections. Is there a rebuild kit or does the whole motor have to be replaced?
Sunman
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