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    Default Front Wheel Bearing Failure

    Just had to replace front wheel bearings on my 2017 TriGlide with only 5300 miles on it. No, I did not blast the front wheel with a pressure sprayer. HD should be ashamed.

    Fortunately ESP covered it. Gave me enough of a scare , that I'm going to order one of DK Customs rear bearing retainer kits and do the rear end next.

    Does anyone know the part numbers for Timken front and rear replacement bearings? I'm going to redo the fronts because I don't trust HD's replacements either.

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    205PP is the non ABS number
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    besides keeping the pressure cleaner away also keep those spray on cleaners away from the bearings. It can get into the bearing and thin the grease away. Even though they are water resistant the clearers are designed to cut grease where water will mostly just go away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OLBLU View Post
    Just had to replace front wheel bearings on my 2017 TriGlide with only 5300 miles on it. No, I did not blast the front wheel with a pressure sprayer. HD should be ashamed.

    Fortunately ESP covered it. Gave me enough of a scare , that I'm going to order one of DK Customs rear bearing retainer kits and do the rear end next.

    Does anyone know the part numbers for Timken front and rear replacement bearings? I'm going to redo the fronts because I don't trust HD's replacements either.
    I had the front bearing replaced at 14 K.....2011 Tri-glide..
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    Like all things ... any manufacturer can have a part failure.

    My first brand new car, 73 Toyota Celica blew a head at 8k miles, it was replaced and blew again at 12k. Turns out the head had seats made of the wrong material. Major recall.

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    I have taken apart quite a few of sealed bearings ( mostly Chinese made) and found a lack of enuff grease and very weak grease seals

    If you are changing your own wheel bearings I would suggest carefully popping the seals off and checking the bearings for proper grease before installing them. You will be a lot happier IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Klarich View Post
    205PP is the non ABS number
    Jack, is the TriGlide the same size bearing as our Freewheeler. About a year age I researched them (you know how I am) for the FW & came up with a 25mm IDx52mm ODx 15mm width.

    HD OEM p/n-9276B

    Timkin-205PP

    NTN-6205-LL

    SKF-6205-2RS
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    Quote Originally Posted by MDO View Post
    Jack, is the TriGlide the same size bearing as our Freewheeler. About a year age I researched them (you know how I am) for the FW & came up with a 25mm IDx52mm ODx 15mm width.

    HD OEM p/n-9276B

    Timkin-205PP

    NTN-6205-LL

    SKF-6205-2RS
    Yes, HD rolled these bearings out a few years ago when they changed the diameter to 25mm

    I have seen some of these bearings fail in very low miles while some go 50K with no issues, that said I have never liked or trusted sealed bearings, tho the set up and end play has been pretty much reduced with them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Klarich View Post
    I have taken apart quite a few of sealed bearings ( mostly Chinese made) and found a lack of enuff grease and very weak grease seals

    If you are changing your own wheel bearings I would suggest carefully popping the seals off and checking the bearings for proper grease before installing them. You will be a lot happier IMO
    I thought I saw a video where John Maxwell was packing them with grease. While we are on the subject, when you get a new front tire, are you replacing the bearing. This post has me considering it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Klarich View Post
    Yes, HD rolled these bearings out a few years ago when they changed the diameter to 25mm

    I have seen some of these bearings fail in very low miles while some go 50K with no issues, that said I have never liked or trusted sealed bearings, tho the set up and end play has been pretty much reduced with them
    I wonder who makes HD's bearings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MDO View Post
    I thought I saw a video where John Maxwell was packing them with grease. While we are on the subject, when you get a new front tire, are you replacing the bearing. This post has me considering it.
    2 part answer, if Maxwell is like me he probably popped the seals off and repacked the bearings with some better grease ( the grease in most of these bearings is pretty weak looking IMO)

    As far as replacing the front bearings @ tire time, probably will as long as the wheel is off, I do not like surprises
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Klarich View Post
    2 part answer, if Maxwell is like me he probably popped the seals off and repacked the bearings with some better grease ( the grease in most of these bearings is pretty weak looking IMO)

    As far as replacing the front bearings @ tire time, probably will as long as the wheel is off, I do not like surprises
    He said the same thing. HD has a little cup like tool they put the bearing in and pump it up to pressure squeeze the grease in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MDO View Post
    He said the same thing. HD has a little cup like tool they put the bearing in and pump it up to pressure squeeze the grease in.
    I have 1 like this, I have had it for over 30 years

    I still pack some bearings by hand The old fashioned way
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    If we get another stimulus check and I get well, I am thinking about an S&S 475 cam & I will ride down & have you do the work. I will of course buy dinner for you and the wife.

    While we are in there, I am also considering the updated/latest oil pump.
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    Here is a link with how we packed bearings by hand, with out a bearing packer. I still do some bearings this way today. That way I know they are full of grease

    https://www.dummies.com/home-garden/...heel-bearings/
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    [QUOTE=Jack Klarich;774768]Here is a link with how we packed bearings by hand, with out a bearing packer. I still do some bearings this way today. That way I know they are full of grease

    I need to find out where to get Timkin bearings in my area. I may have to order by mail.
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    [QUOTE=MDO;774769]
    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Klarich View Post
    Here is a link with how we packed bearings by hand, with out a bearing packer. I still do some bearings this way today. That way I know they are full of grease

    I need to find out where to get Timkin bearings in my area. I may have to order by mail.
    Check Napa, they used to have a Timken Master catalog
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    I just replaced my front bearing at 30,000 miles. Since I am not good at fixing things I had my local HD do it.

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    Thank you all for the replies.

    Will the Timken 205PP also fit the rears?

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    Might check to see if you have a Motion Ind. near by they can get about any bearing you need.

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