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    I was just told by my dealer that they no longer use Amsoil, it will void your warranty. Just wondering if anyone has been told this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evermill View Post
    I was just told by my dealer that they no longer use Amsoil, it will void your warranty. Just wondering if anyone has been told this.
    No it will not!’ They probably just make more money by just selling the Harley Oil ..
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    Hi Ed. Manufacturers have minimum ratings for oil in order to comply with warranty requirements. If ANY lubricant meets or exceeds that requirement, the manufacturer cannot alter anything in your warranty because of that. You are protected for this by law. It is the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act.

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    What Jim said I agree with. I've used Mobil 1 and had catastrophic engine failure on a 110" CVO a few years ago. Nothing was even mentioned about oil or even verifying service history and the engine was replaced. In any case it is Harley corporate that decides on warranty coverage so I'd speak to them and see what they have to say.

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    I became an AMSOIL Dealer in 2000.

    This controversy about warranty and compatibility of synthetics on the Harley-Davidson product just won't rest. Prior to their introduction of Syn3 (semi-synthetic), Harley-Davidson took the position that synthetics were harmful for their engines. Then they developed their own product to sell. So much for SCIENCE !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by evermill View Post
    I was just told by my dealer that they no longer use Amsoil, it will void your warranty. Just wondering if anyone has been told this.
    ......and since 2009, Harley-Davidson Dealers no longer build Lehman, Champion or MotorTrike conversions. Hell, they won't even work on the ones they built since the COMPANY marketed the TriGlide in 2009.
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    This oil warranty debacle rears its ugly head again. Harley does NOT manufacture oil. They put out tenders to oil company's to produce a product for them. HD corporate does NOT go on record to list what the certification of this oil is. Therefore how can they say we are using the wrong oil? The only thing a HD owners manual states is if in a bind 1 can use a diesel rated oil. For a dealer to say that any oil other than HD oil will void a warranty is not only irresponsible BUT it also goes against federal law.Read here, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnus...s_Warranty_Act
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    I've said this numerous times....That Just you asking if ''Such'' and ''Such'' will void my warranty to a dealer will void your warranty..........
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    You guys are making Harley Davidson sound a lot like Big Brother... don’t do this, don’t do that..if you do you are in trouble...just give us money and you get wheels and a frame in return.. surely they have not gotten that bad..?
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    Quote Originally Posted by paws View Post
    You guys are making Harley Davidson sound a lot like Big Brother... don’t do this, don’t do that..if you do you are in trouble...just give us money and you get wheels and a frame in return.. surely they have not gotten that bad..?
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    I say BS to that. And if anything such as that is true then why does HD of Waco Tex sell Red Seal on the same shelf as the MOCO oil?

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    Lets not forget HD kept saying over and over again synthetic oil would cause bearing skate problems until they (corporate) saw oil sales slipping. Hence HD introduces Syn3 oil. They touted this new and improved and the oil certified by HD for our bikes. Still the MOCO does NOT put an API rating on their oils. HMMMMMMM
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    I agree Jack. They won't tell you specs on anything. I asked my service writer about HD Formula+ and he took me aside and told me it was conventional 10W40 oil. He said he would deny it if I rat him out.

    I have used for awhile in my clutch because I had a bunch, but im out now and at the 15,000 mile service its getting Redline.
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    i have run 10w-30 whatever was cheapest in every thing from my mowers, v max 100k miles , kz130070k niles, road star 25k, valkrie 20k, 88 flh engine 60k (not trans or primary)

    never had ANY issues with engine or clutch

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    Didn't mean to open a can of worms. Just never heard of such a think of a vehicle manufacturer try to dictate what oil you use. I do my own oil change and use Amsoil for oil and Redline for the other 2 holes. Had trike in to have a RAD error looked at that popped up at the Eastern Arizona gathering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evermill View Post
    Didn't mean to open a can of worms. Just never heard of such a think of a vehicle manufacturer try to dictate what oil you use. I do my own oil change and use Amsoil for oil and Redline for the other 2 holes. Had trike in to have a RAD error looked at that popped up at the Eastern Arizona gathering.
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    Whoever told you that should be fired. Ask to see the document that says that.

    Last weekend I sat next to a H-D service writer. He was telling the guy across from us that Amsoil will destroy his engine. I asked how and he gave some mumble jumble answer about rings and seals. Next to Mobil1, Amsoil is the second largest selling motorcycle oil in the country. If it was so bad, why doesn't H-D Corp. have an official document denouncing Amsoil????

    I use to sell Amsoil years ago and used it in all my vehicles for over 30 years - not one single oil related problem.
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    It's a shame that people pull these sorts of bullshit on customers. This a part of the problem Harley has, misinformation and foolish statements by uneducated immoral people in positions of trust sad really sad. Fred
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    I have to agree it is BS, seems like harley will do anything to void your warranty now a days, the EPA put a scare into harley and so harley in turn will void warranty for what ever reason to prevent paying out repairs and since they are hurting in the business and not really selling bikes, that is what I think.

    On my bike I was in the service department and talking to them and I told them I changed my oil and filter, my trannie and primary, this was about the 1,000 mile service, they said it will void my warranty doing it myself, like I said harley will do and say anything about voiding your warranty, we know it is BS

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    My dealer put Amsoil in my in my trike on its first service and has since. They recommended it.

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