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    I hear a few people say something about ;Lifting an inside tire/wheel while making a fast sharp turn with a trike..[Conventional trike].....

    My Question is what is the definition of an inside tire/wheel?....;Ie' I'm making a fast sharp ''Left'' Turn....And in my mind if any wheel is going to lift it would be the ''Right'' rear [Outside] wheel and Vice-versa if making a right turn .....??...After running 3 ATC's into the ground over the years, If found that the outside wheel lifts...? And i've done that in purpose many times to make quick maneuvers though the woods... ...
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    Maybe they don't know left from right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Klarich View Post
    Maybe they don't know left from right?
    Don't know aboutthat ....Maybe their just trying to sound Motorcycish...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino 2 View Post
    Don't know aboutthat ....Maybe their just trying to sound Motorcycish...
    In your first post the laws of physics would be on your side( IE) hard left turn the RS wheel would lift
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Klarich View Post
    In your first post the laws of physics would be on your side( IE) hard left turn the RS wheel would lift
    Exactly.......The only way to lift an inside wheel is to do a Turtle....[In my mind anyway]

    But i'll bet that inside wheel thing will come up again.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino 2 View Post
    I hear a few people say something about ;Lifting an inside tire/wheel while making a fast sharp turn with a trike..[Conventional trike].....My Question is what is the definition of an inside tire/wheel?....;Ie' I'm making a fast sharp ''Left'' Turn....And in my mind if any wheel is going to lift it would be the ''Right'' rear [Outside] wheel and Vice-versa if making a right turn .....??...After running 3 ATC's into the ground over the years, If found that the outside wheel lifts...? And i've done that in purpose many times to make quick maneuvers though the woods... ...
    I think you are hearing voices again...
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    I think you are hearing voices again...
    I know the voices in my head aren't real [Sometimes] But you have to admit that they have some great ideas at times of stress....Especially the ones i get from the inside of Snapple bottle caps......
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    Even four wheelers can raise wheels in a turn...

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    I've had a few helmet slaps in that situation, LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino 2 View Post
    I hear a few people say something about ;Lifting an inside tire/wheel while making a fast sharp turn with a trike..[Conventional trike].....

    My Question is what is the definition of an inside tire/wheel?....;Ie' I'm making a fast sharp ''Left'' Turn....And in my mind if any wheel is going to lift it would be the ''Right'' rear [Outside] wheel and Vice-versa if making a right turn .....??...After running 3 ATC's into the ground over the years, If found that the outside wheel lifts...? And i've done that in purpose many times to make quick maneuvers though the woods... ...
    I think you mixed up your left & rights. The only way I see the outer tire lifting is if you first steered into the turn too fast or hard, then tried to correct after the inner tire lifted, but by time you realized it lifted, it was now the outside tire as you corrected to prevent a roll over. Those trail 3 wheelers had low pressure tires that let the 3 wheeler lean and the rider's weight was enough to make the thing almost top heavy.

    If making a hard left, it's the inside or most left side tire that will lift if any does, and same if making a hard right, then the most inner (inner being that one closest to the center of the circle which the arc you are prescribing with your hard turn is a part of) tire is going to lift first … that is if one does lift.

    Every turn prescribes an arc.

    Every arc is part of a larger circle.

    An increasing or decreasing radius turn prescribes many shorter arcs.

    I've had a front tire start to slip out on a hard turn, but never had a rear tire lift yet.
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    I check the speed indicator. Then hit the levitation knob. This maybe listed as anti gravity on your bike. In any case set your control height so all three wheels are clearing the tarmac. Next it is important to dial in the proper radius for your turn! Failure to do so will result in a no turn condition which can be harmful,fatal,or amusing depending on the out come. hope this helps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidecarbill View Post
    I check the speed indicator. Then hit the levitation knob. This maybe listed as anti gravity on your bike. In any case set your control height so all three wheels are clearing the tarmac. Next it is important to dial in the proper radius for your turn! Failure to do so will result in a no turn condition which can be harmful,fatal,or amusing depending on the out come. hope this helps?
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    Until I read all these post, I was comfortable turning left/right on all types of roads and at all speeds. Now I’m gripping the handlebars, pressing my weak knees against the gas tank and having panic attacks. And this morning while riding l did something really childish.💩 I’m seriously thinking about selling my trike.

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    Well you always say what doesn't kill ya makes ya stronger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidecarbill View Post
    Well you always say what doesn't kill ya makes ya stronger.
    Guess so, But if it does then all betts are off.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by trikeman View Post
    Until I read all these post, I was comfortable turning left/right on all types of roads and at all speeds. Now I’m gripping the handlebars, pressing my weak knees against the gas tank and having panic attacks. And this morning while riding l did something really childish.💩 I’m seriously thinking about selling my trike.
    Move to Florida all the roads are straight. You will have a few sharp turns, but you can slow down to walking speed for them. You know, like all the old people down there. If you want to fit in with the locals, never use a turn signal. Just turn the signal on when you start the engine, either right or left doesn't matter. Do not turn it off until you've reached your destination!

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    Quote Originally Posted by trikeman View Post
    Until I read all these post, I was comfortable turning left/right on all types of roads and at all speeds. Now I’m gripping the handlebars, pressing my weak knees against the gas tank and having panic attacks. And this morning while riding l did something really childish.💩 I’m seriously thinking about selling my trike.
    Dave.. How much do you want for that dangerous machine.. But before i take it off your hands first you have to buff out the knee scuffs on the tank.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino 2 View Post
    Dave.. How much do you want for that dangerous machine.. But before i take it off your hands first you have to buff out the knee scuffs on the tank.....
    No scuffs on the tank. Weak knees

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