I went with the FP3 myself and think it's perfect for just about anybody, beginner, intermediate or advanced. It made my bike better just by loading a map to match my components. I may look at auto tuning next spring/summer but I'm not even real sure about that. I did make a few other minor adjustments as well to increase performance but it has a lot more than I will ever need or use.
2016 Tri Glide, More DK than HD. Just shut up and ride.
I removed my Power Vision , and installed a Thunder Max auto tune , got it from Cycle Solution's They asked what was done to the motor and for my V I N number 3 day's later had it in the mail , installed it the other night Road it today 250 miles, It is the best it has ever run, everything is better more power, rideability , better M P G , it auto tune's itself every time you shut it off and restart it changes the map from the last ride . At first it would ping in 6th gear ran a little rough got better every time I shut it off and restarted it. Really great people compared to dealing with FUEL MOTO . Thunder Max list was about $1100 Cycle solution's was $849. free shipping
RD, glad you found a solution. Which header are you running? I’ve done the a/c, decatted header, cvo muffs with 2” Fullsac cores, and the breather bypass, tuned up fairly easy with the PV. Still doing a few timing adjustments though.
I use Power Visions for every Harley I own because of the price point and I can tune multiple bikes with 1 tuner (license purchase). The auto tune is built into the Power Vision only for bikes with oxygen sensors. Auto tuning can be confusing with a Power Vision because it must be manually activated and deactivated. I've heard Power Vision just recently (as I write this) been able to tune 20 and up motorcycles. This could have been the problem you were encountering.
I completely agree with your choice to install the Thunder Max. I've only used 1 because the motorcycle involved had a turbo and Thunder Max will retard timing under boost, Power Vision won't.
The tuning for the turbo bike was flawless with the correct base map. The Thunder Max did all the fine tuning automatically and still is every time it gets ridden.
Thunder Max is a great product. I don't believe you can tune multiple motorcycles with it so it get's pricy if you own a few modified, injected bikes.
my 2013 was running as lean as I've ever seen a motor run. Hot too!
I bought it used at 7k miles.
I found a set of the fl veids already on it so obviously they were not working so I picked up a V&H FP3. Amazing difference with a simple setup on my cell phone.
Going to auto tune in a couple weeks but I very much like the FP3 so far.
DeCat next.
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