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Thread: I-Team: Lawsuits Blame Harley Davidson ‘Trikes' for Death, Injuries

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    Does this only apply to the 19 + models with traction control?

    should I be concerned about my 18?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dlpuette View Post
    Does this only apply to the 19 + models with traction control?

    should I be concerned about my 18?
    You can check your trike thru your VIN here

    https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/e...e-recalls.html
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    The recall is related to trikes that are built between 3/12/18 and 11/5/19
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    My 2018 came back OK.

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    Thanks guys. I’ll check the vin recall

    I know my bike was delivered to the dealer and previous owner in January of 18. It was #49 of the 1900 run. Likely assembled in York just before that.
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    I figured before i run out and buy a roll of bubble wrap to wrap myself in so i can bounce off guard rails safely....I would run my VIN# ....Comes up clean...
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    Quote Originally Posted by nucseal View Post
    So where do you disconnect these sensors?
    Look under the back of the trike you will see the sensor's going into the backing plate there's a plug on both side's above the rear axle housing, just push in the locking clip and pull apart the plug. I'm going to leave mine unplugged .

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    It only applies to 2019 and early 2020 models as 2019 was the first year for ABS. As Jack pointed out in post # 10 the Traction Control System (TCS) can be disabled. You must do that each time you start engine as default is enabled. It is a TCS issue NOT an ABS issue. The recall software update was to correct a possible bad read from a wheel speed sensor causing the TCS to think that wheel had lost traction and then applying the brake to that wheel only to regain traction. The update was done on my 2020 before I took delivery in December, 2019, and I've had absolutely no problem . . and am not concerned that I will. I'm not downplaying the significance of this but it is old news and afaik has been resolved.

    And while this may be far fetched I can see a possible scenario where in the event of an accident the insurance company inspects and finds the ABS sensor disconnected they might have a reason to deny or at least complicate a settlement. They know which models have ABS (and probably even asked on the application) and have factored this into the premium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ultrafxr View Post
    It only applies to 2019 and early 2020 models as 2019 was the first year for ABS. As Jack pointed out in post # 10 the Traction Control System (TCS) can be disabled. You must do that each time you start engine as default is enabled. It is a TCS issue NOT an ABS issue. The recall software update was to correct a possible bad read from a wheel speed sensor causing the TCS to think that wheel had lost traction and then applying the brake to that wheel only to regain traction. The update was done on my 2020 before I took delivery in December, 2019, and I've had absolutely no problem . . and am not concerned that I will. I'm not downplaying the significance of this but it is old news and afaik has been resolved.

    And while this may be far fetched I can see a possible scenario where in the event of an accident the insurance company inspects and finds the ABS sensor disconnected they might have a reason to deny or at least complicate a settlement. They know which models have ABS (and probably even asked on the application) and have factored this into the premium.
    Good follow up with your info

    Yes the insurance companies know the minute the bike is insured . Thru the VIN they know everything about the bike/ and or trike. Trying to defeat the ABS or traction control will end up causing bad JU JU IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Klarich View Post
    Good follow up with your info

    Yes the insurance companies know the minute the bike is insured . Thru the VIN they know everything about the bike/ and or trike. Trying to defeat the ABS or traction control will end up causing bad JU JU IMO
    It is What It Is . I want control of my trike . Having A B S brake's and traction's control & R D R S That may or may not work That's not for me .

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    We are in the process of having our 2020 FLHRC converted into a Trike. Our bike presently has ABS and wondering how this would affect the new build?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walterwhite View Post
    We are in the process of having our 2020 FLHRC converted into a Trike. Our bike presently has ABS and wondering how this would affect the new build?
    ABS is not the problem, it's the traction control that was acting up and needed a software update.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwkride View Post
    ABS is not the problem, it's the traction control that was acting up and needed a software update.
    Phew.....that's good to know. Then again the whole reason we are converting our RK to an aftermarket trike is to stay away from the HD issues like this.

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