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    Quote Originally Posted by cycle7447 View Post
    Road Dog - thanks so much. If this works, I would be happy to try this process. I still have my original wheel and tire - all mounted and in my garage.

    So, do I have to have the exact TMPS that is in that old wheel or, can I simply buy a new one any mount it in one of the trike wheels?

    Some others here say that I would need a special wheel that is equipped to handle TMPS.

    Since my dealer services trikes, I am pretty certain that they can dismount the tire on my trike. Naturally, they can dismount my old bike tire.

    Hopefully I can just buy a new TMPS sensor and take it to some place like Discount tire and have it installed. So, once you had it put in your trike tire, did you have to do anything else and, did the system find it automatically?

    Thanks
    You need to use your old one, out of your two wheel rear wheel you will have to buy a valve stem discount tire should have the valve stem . should be no problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROAD DOG View Post
    You need to use your old one, out of your two wheel rear wheel you will have to buy a valve stem discount tire should have the valve stem . should be no problem
    Sounds pretty simple - then I wondered, if this is so simply, they why don't the conversion companies like CSC RoadSmith, MotorTrike install TMPS in the wheels they put on. Better still, why don't they tell you to install the one from your front wheel into the rear wheel of the trike.

    So, I called my discount tire. Asked them is I needed an exact match for TMPS, he said no. Then I asked if he would put a TMPS sensor in my trike rear - he said, we don't work on motorcycles. I followed to say that its a car tire - still he said, they don't work on motorcycles. However, if I just brought him the tire and wheel, he could look at it and take the tire off and mount the TMPS sensor.

    Well, I am at a loss - but, want to be able to ride so will get the work done I need and ride this season. Perhaps when the season is over and the dealer is not busy, I can take the bike to him with the old tire. See if he will make the exchange and put the old sensor in the rear trike tire.

    I don't mind purchasing a new sensor from the Harley dealer if this would work. Do you know if it would? Seems to me it would work. Why would that be any different than replacing the rear tire and sensor if something happened to it.

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    OK, for giggles, I decided to try something.

    When I start my bike, the tire system comes up saying I need air - OK, I get that - no TPMS on the trike tire. When I press the button, it says the pressure is 36 and low. If I remember, when I was at the dealership, it read as if there was no TMPS there.

    Then I realized - when I am at home I have the old tire in my garage. So, I went over to that, checked the pressure and it read 36. My tire calls for 40 so, I took my little pump and added up to 45PSI in that tire.

    Started the bike - and guess what - there was no indication that I had a low tire pressure. So, I went to the info, pushed the button and it read 45 - just like I had filled the tire.

    Now the tire light is still on but, as I recall, that does not go off until you start to ride. All of this is interesting - lets see where we can go from here

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    Quote Originally Posted by cycle7447 View Post
    Sounds pretty simple - then I wondered, if this is so simply, they why don't the conversion companies like CSC RoadSmith, MotorTrike install TMPS in the wheels they put on. Better still, why don't they tell you to install the one from your front wheel into the rear wheel of the trike.

    So, I called my discount tire. Asked them is I needed an exact match for TMPS, he said no. Then I asked if he would put a TMPS sensor in my trike rear - he said, we don't work on motorcycles. I followed to say that its a car tire - still he said, they don't work on motorcycles. However, if I just brought him the tire and wheel, he could look at it and take the tire off and mount the TMPS sensor.

    Well, I am at a loss - but, want to be able to ride so will get the work done I need and ride this season. Perhaps when the season is over and the dealer is not busy, I can take the bike to him with the old tire. See if he will make the exchange and put the old sensor in the rear trike tire.

    I don't mind purchasing a new sensor from the Harley dealer if this would work. Do you know if it would? Seems to me it would work. Why would that be any different than replacing the rear tire and sensor if something happened to it.
    You can buy a new one from Harley for a Tri Glide have it installed in your rear wheel then it will have to be programed to your bike, any new tpms for any car truck bus what ever has to be programed to that vehicle

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    Quote Originally Posted by cycle7447 View Post
    OK, for giggles, I decided to try something.

    When I start my bike, the tire system comes up saying I need air - OK, I get that - no TPMS on the trike tire. When I press the button, it says the pressure is 36 and low. If I remember, when I was at the dealership, it read as if there was no TMPS there.

    Then I realized - when I am at home I have the old tire in my garage. So, I went over to that, checked the pressure and it read 36. My tire calls for 40 so, I took my little pump and added up to 45PSI in that tire.

    Started the bike - and guess what - there was no indication that I had a low tire pressure. So, I went to the info, pushed the button and it read 45 - just like I had filled the tire.

    Now the tire light is still on but, as I recall, that does not go off until you start to ride. All of this is interesting - lets see where we can go from here
    Ok the wheel is in the garage next to the trike you put air in the tire your trike reads that, Put that sensor in your trike tire the trike will read it , Your done .

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROAD DOG View Post
    Ok the wheel is in the garage next to the trike you put air in the tire your trike reads that, Put that sensor in your trike tire the trike will read it , Your done .
    Thanks - the trike is going in for a few things today. Adding XM radio, having a front fender light and trim installed - plus the big one, I have no clutch on a bike with 821 miles.

    Back to the TMPS - I will share what I learned here with my dealer - see if they have a TriGlide TMPS and, "IF" they will install it in my tire.

    Reading a little more about TMPS, sounds like they are also tire size dependent. My trike tire is a 17. So, will have tons of questions for the dealer.

    Again, if this is so easy, why haven't the trike manufacturers simply put TMPS in these wheels

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    Quote Originally Posted by cycle7447 View Post
    Thanks - the trike is going in for a few things today. Adding XM radio, having a front fender light and trim installed - plus the big one, I have no clutch on a bike with 821 miles.

    Back to the TMPS - I will share what I learned here with my dealer - see if they have a TriGlide TMPS and, "IF" they will install it in my tire.

    Reading a little more about TMPS, sounds like they are also tire size dependent. My trike tire is a 17. So, will have tons of questions for the dealer.

    Again, if this is so easy, why haven't the trike manufacturers simply put TMPS in these wheels
    Whats up with the clutch ? When they trike it they must have pulled the outer primary & inner primary and clutch to change the swing arm ? On the TPMS I checked on a chevy pickup They come with 17',18",20" & 22" wheels it says they all take the same sensor , I checked Ronnies HD on line it said a harley tri glide rear tire sensor was over $200. Man you can buy car sensors for $25.00 . I would take your rear wheel to the harley shop have them remove your sensor go to a independent automotive shop that has a tire machine and have them install it in your trike rear tire if it dont work so you wasted another $ 75.00 . Thats just my Deranged Thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROAD DOG View Post
    Whats up with the clutch ? When they trike it they must have pulled the outer primary & inner primary and clutch to change the swing arm ? On the TPMS I checked on a chevy pickup They come with 17',18",20" & 22" wheels it says they all take the same sensor , I checked Ronnies HD on line it said a harley tri glide rear tire sensor was over $200. Man you can buy car sensors for $25.00 . I would take your rear wheel to the harley shop have them remove your sensor go to a independent automotive shop that has a tire machine and have them install it in your trike rear tire if it dont work so you wasted another $ 75.00 . Thats just my Deranged Thinking
    Thanks for your response about the clutch. I talked to the installer and they said they did not make any clutch adjustments. i know they pulled the primary - had to do that to put the new belts on.

    Installer said he has never had this kind of as problem with the clutch not working after an install - been doing trikes since 2003. So, my dealer has it now and installer says they will pay the price to fix whatever it is.

    Am liking the idea about taking my wheel to the dealership and removing the sensor.

    Thanks guys - you have been a big help. Will let you know more about the clutch when I get the bike back - hopefully tomorrow

    For me - I just want it done right. Have a new bike, like I said 821 miles on it. Couldn't ride last year because of surgery. So, am hopeful that this can be fixed and I will be comfortable with the bike on long trips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cycle7447 View Post
    Thanks for your response about the clutch. I talked to the installer and they said they did not make any clutch adjustments. i know they pulled the primary - had to do that to put the new belts on.

    Installer said he has never had this kind of as problem with the clutch not working after an install - been doing trikes since 2003. So, my dealer has it now and installer says they will pay the price to fix whatever it is.

    Am liking the idea about taking my wheel to the dealership and removing the sensor.

    Thanks guys - you have been a big help. Will let you know more about the clutch when I get the bike back - hopefully tomorrow

    For me - I just want it done right. Have a new bike, like I said 821 miles on it. Couldn't ride last year because of surgery. So, am hopeful that this can be fixed and I will be comfortable with the bike on long trips.
    Your 21 model has 2 clutch adjustments, the clutch basket ( same as in the past with cable pull clutch) and the new spring assist ( POS IMO) cable adjuster

    They are cheaply made and are going to break, it is just a matter of time

    Here is a link to a very good looking fix

    https://fatbaggers.com/ez-clutch-adjustor-upgrade-kit

    Hopefully it is just an adjustment problem
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    Im pretty sure HD dosnt mfg those sensors. If theres a part# or mfg code on it take down to NAPA and see if they can cross reference it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Klarich View Post
    Your 21 model has 2 clutch adjustments, the clutch basket ( same as in the past with cable pull clutch) and the new spring assist ( POS IMO) cable adjuster

    They are cheaply made and are going to break, it is just a matter of time

    Here is a link to a very good looking fix

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    https://fatbaggers.com/ez-clutch-adjustor-upgrade-kit

    Hopefully it is just an adjustment problem
    You guys are a wealth of information. I too hope it is just an adjustment matter.

    Took the unit in on Sunday - was scheduled for service on Monday. There were several things being done - adding XM radio, putting a fender light on the front (HD removed that light in 2021), oil change, fender trim around the light and then the bottom fender trim. Plus, of course, the clutch.

    Was given an estimate of 6 hours total. I thought they were starting first thing Monday AM. Got a call at 11:30 on Monday - wanted to know what kind of oil I wanted. About 30 minutes later, got a call asking if I wanted the XM radio on top of the dash (I had given them a picture of how I wanted in - next to the vent). So, this means, they probably didn't start until noontime.

    Called later in the day to see if they were done and was told it would probably be finished on Tuesday. Asked if they had done the clutch as this is my worry - they didn't know and wanted to know if they should grab the tech. I said no - just wanted them to keep moving.

    Wife and I talked - we are ready to ride. Feel confident that the Harley guys can fix whatever it is. As far as the TPMS, we may wait until this winter to get all of that worked out - just want to get on the road.

    Meanwhile, what I might do it take the rear motorcycle wheel to a local Discount time or Belle Tire - see if they can read the TPMS is that wheel. If they can, it may give me some idea as to how I can move forward with putting that sensor in the right rear of the trike.

    CSC says my rear tires should be around 22 psi. That TPMS for the motorcycle rear is set at 40. Have to ask the dealer if that can be changed to say 20

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    Not having a good day yet.

    Dealer has installed my XM - said all good there. They called to leave a message - letting my know if would cost extra to remove the running boards to get to the clutch - dah. By the time I got back to them, it was a bit late. So, I stopped by the dealership - talked to the service manager and he said they will get to it late on Tuesday or Wednesday morning.

    Right now, I am hopeful that this is an easy fix - didn't expect this sort of an issue with my new conversion on my bike with less than 800 miles on it.

    While at the dealership, I asked about the TPMS - they cannot or will not disengage it. Actually, this sort of makes since to me. So, back to part of my original question - since CSC is doing conversions, why on earth have they not considered/found a way to resolve this.

    Tons of suggestions here and I would really like to know - who has actually resolved this. I've heard, put the old one in my tire, buy a new one and put in in the tire - who has made it work.

    When I asked the dealer about putting the old one in his response was - OK, but, if you do that, the bike will be looking for 40 in the rear and the tire will only have 22 in the rear. So, I asked - can you reset it so that the bike is only looking for 22 and, got a no answer. I just am not sure anymore.

    Maybe I will just go to Discount Tire - take my old bike tire - see if they can read that TPMS. If they can, see what it says on their screen. Then ask them if they can change the bike to read 22 in the rear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cycle7447 View Post
    Not having a good day yet.

    Dealer has installed my XM - said all good there. They called to leave a message - letting my know if would cost extra to remove the running boards to get to the clutch - dah. By the time I got back to them, it was a bit late. So, I stopped by the dealership - talked to the service manager and he said they will get to it late on Tuesday or Wednesday morning.

    Right now, I am hopeful that this is an easy fix - didn't expect this sort of an issue with my new conversion on my bike with less than 800 miles on it.

    While at the dealership, I asked about the TPMS - they cannot or will not disengage it. Actually, this sort of makes since to me. So, back to part of my original question - since CSC is doing conversions, why on earth have they not considered/found a way to resolve this.

    Tons of suggestions here and I would really like to know - who has actually resolved this. I've heard, put the old one in my tire, buy a new one and put in in the tire - who has made it work.

    When I asked the dealer about putting the old one in his response was - OK, but, if you do that, the bike will be looking for 40 in the rear and the tire will only have 22 in the rear. So, I asked - can you reset it so that the bike is only looking for 22 and, got a no answer. I just am not sure anymore.

    Maybe I will just go to Discount Tire - take my old bike tire - see if they can read that TPMS. If they can, see what it says on their screen. Then ask them if they can change the bike to read 22 in the rear.
    There’s is no way a dealer will change a 40 to a 22 PSI remember the Firestone tire Ford Explorer fiasco of a few years ago..! That’s the main reason for TPMS…
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino 2 View Post
    There’s is no way a dealer will change a 40 to a 22 PSI remember the Firestone tire Ford Explorer fiasco of a few years ago..! That’s the main reason for TPMS…
    Sorry, I don't recall the Firestone tire Ford Explorer incident - will try to look that us.

    Still have to wonder what the CVO TriGlide reads - does it say 36 in the front and 40 or 22 in the rear.

    Heck, maybe this is just something I will have to live with - because I decided to go to a CSC conversion. At least folks here will know that there is some conversation and perhaps CSC will be a little more upfront about this

    Still like to hear more from folks that are saying they have done it - or that it can be done

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    I have my 2021 Indian Roadmaster with A CSC kit, it has ABS, the light does not come on, when I check my tire psi it just reads the front the rears are just blank, No lights no problems . Call CSC See what they say

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    Randy does A lot of CSC kits ask him

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROAD DOG View Post
    Randy does A lot of CSC kits ask him
    Yes, I understand Randy does quite a few. Don't want to throw my installer under the bus - he told me he contacted CSC and they said there is not a fix.

    Still my most immediate concern is the clutch - hopefully my dealer can tell me what is going on today.

    If not completely worked out - maybe they can take it to Arlington and get everything fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cycle7447 View Post
    Yes, I understand Randy does quite a few. Don't want to throw my installer under the bus - he told me he contacted CSC and they said there is not a fix.

    Still my most immediate concern is the clutch - hopefully my dealer can tell me what is going on today.

    If not completely worked out - maybe they can take it to Arlington and get everything fixed.
    The only fix would be if a tire company made tires with a 22 psi rating...I put 25 psi in my rear tires on my 2019 Tri Glide...And when i bring it in to the dealer for service they give it back to me with 36 psi.....It is a legal/liability thing....
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino 2 View Post
    The only fix would be if a tire company made tires with a 22 psi rating...I put 25 psi in my rear tires on my 2019 Tri Glide...And when i bring it in to the dealer for service they give it back to me with 36 psi.....It is a legal/liability thing....
    Does your 2019 Tri Glide have TPMS? If so, when you reduce it to 2, doesn't the light come back on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cycle7447 View Post
    Does your 2019 Tri Glide have TPMS? If so, when you reduce it to 2, doesn't the light come back on?
    My 2019 doesn’t have TPMS…. I keep the rears at 25..And the front at 36… every once in a while I checked the pressure in the tires with my air gage that seems to work out well👍..
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