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    OK, it is Monday I hope you had a good experience with the dealer
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    Dealer has been great Jack, no run around at all, it's the Mothership that has to be dealt with in steps. Ok, here' s the rundown on the tests that were run:

    Compression test:

    Front - 150 psi

    Rear - 145 psi

    Leak Down test:

    Front - 5%

    Rear - 3%

    Crankshaft Position Sensor removal - 2 oz of oil came out ----- Maximum of 6 oz allowed

    Air cleaner is good to go, no goop in it

    No leaks can be found anywhere

    Exhaust pipes are not oily or overly dirty

    Conclusion, no one seems to know, lol. Per HD, they refilled oil to correct level and I have to go back in 500 miles, I don't have a problem with that so we'll see what happens the next time
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    Those numbers look good, I sure wonder where that much oil is going?

    I hope it can be figured out for you, that sure is a pretty Trike you have
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    Did they check the primary fluid level?

    It is rare, but it does happen that the main seal can fail and let oil from the engine into the primary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DK Custom Products View Post
    Did they check the primary fluid level?

    It is rare, but it does happen that the main seal can fail and let oil from the engine into the primary.

    Kevin
    Its funny you would mention the crankshaft oil seal, when HD had to fix my oil migration issue they installed a new crank seal. I wasnt sure what this had to do with the trans migration issue

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    Kevin, I didn't mention it but the primary was checked, all good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zammy View Post
    Kevin, I didn't mention it but the primary was checked, all good.
    That is good news!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mykneesbehurtin View Post
    Its funny you would mention the crankshaft oil seal, when HD had to fix my oil migration issue they installed a new crank seal. I wasnt sure what this had to do with the trans migration issue
    When crank seal is compromised the vacuum from the engine cooling down can increase the vacuum in the primary, which can pull fluid from the transmission.

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    After another 500 miles and it was down another quart, Corporate finally authorized the dealership to tear the top end down. Just got a phone call after hours today that they found some problems, I remember our guy said something about the rings and another part I hadn't heard of. We're going to stop in the dealer on Monday and get the full report, they took photos and forwarded them to the Mothership, we shall see.

    Our dealer at New Port Richey Harley have been great, the main problem has been headquarters getting back to them in a timely manner. They are not happy with the way this has been handled, will keep everyone up to date when we find out more on Monday.
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    I hope they get this straightened out. Damn MOCO can be anal.
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    Some rings were installed wrong, they're going to check the cylinders real well and order new if needed, now to wait and see if there is any part shortages. Sad looking bike with the engine tore down, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zammy View Post
    Some rings were installed wrong, they're going to check the cylinders real well and order new if needed, now to wait and see if there is any part shortages. Sad looking bike with the engine tore down, lol.
    Wow! Crazy to have to go through all that Gary for how much they want for a CVO TriGlide!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zammy View Post
    Some rings were installed wrong, they're going to check the cylinders real well and order new if needed, now to wait and see if there is any part shortages. Sad looking bike with the engine tore down, lol.
    I hope you get new cylinders and pistons, I hope they check the piston oiling jets also
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    Sad that it wasn’t set perfectly… you think you buy something nice and some crap like this happens, unfortunately it happens to all manufacturers.
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    Well, on the road to recovery. Luck on parts Gary.
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    Remember: HD is known as the "Motor Company".

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    Yeah, parts are on the way, no need for new pistons or jugs, they have been thoroughly examined with no wear or scoring, I saw the reports and pictures.

    On another note I just wondered if the rings are hand fitted or maybe by robotics from a stack, my dealer didn't know either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zammy View Post
    Yeah, parts are on the way, no need for new pistons or jugs, they have been thoroughly examined with no wear or scoring, I saw the reports and pictures.

    On another note I just wondered if the rings are hand fitted or maybe by robotics from a stack, my dealer didn't know either.
    Usually done by hand with a ring compressor. Anyway that’s how I did it on my VW Beetle..1970’s. My son just did a piston and head on his ATV and used a ring compressor..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zammy View Post
    Some rings were installed wrong, they're going to check the cylinders real well and order new if needed, now to wait and see if there is any part shortages. Sad looking bike with the engine tore down, lol.
    They say the rings are installed wrong ? so shouldn't all this oil be in the exhaust system ? if not were is it ? No new Jugs or Piston's ? They check the cylinders real good, Hay Billy these Cylinders look good to you They sure Do Bobby change that ring that was upside down We will fill this thing with STP till Hes out of warranty. Thats Harley repair as cheapest as possible, if that dont work then your down for another couple of months . GOOD LUCK Sorry been there before

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    If that much oil went through the exhaust, they probable should replace the cat and O2 sensors. Or at less make a note of it as oil deteriorates both parts.

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