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    This should make you feel good.Venture Williams Down Shift – Tesla is killing motorcyclists.Is the Tesla autopilot software not able to “see” motorcycles? In two recent event involving Tesla the apparent answer to that question is no.In July 2022 the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) sent investigation teams to two crashes where Tesla’s crashed into motorcycles on freeways in the darkness. Both were fatal.The first occurred 4:47 a.m. July 7 on State Route 91, a California freeway. A white Tesla Model Y was traveling east in the high occupancy vehicle lane. Ahead of the Tesla was a rider on a Yamaha V-Star motorcycle.The vehicles collided, and the unidentified motorcyclist was ejected from the Yamaha. He was pronounced dead at the scene by the Fire Department.The second crash happened about 1AM July 24 on Interstate 15 near Draper, Utah. A Tesla Model 3 was behind a Harley-Davidson motorcycle, also in an HOV lane. “The driver of the Tesla did not see the motorcyclist and collided with the back of the motorcycle, which threw the rider from the bike,” the Utah Department of Public Safety said in a prepared statement.The motorcyclist was pronounced died at the scene.From 2016 to now the NHTSA has investigated 39 crashes involving autopilot features 30 of which were Tesla. The Tesla’s involved 19 deaths. My Take – Not sure why it is taking so long to issue a recall for this autopilot feature? Tesla is taking the brunt of the investigations but is that because they are worse than the other manufactures or because there are more Tesla’s on the road.My recommendation…. If you see a Tesla coming up behind you, get out of the way. There is no way to know if the dummy driving the car is on autopilot or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItBeMe View Post
    This should make you feel good.Venture Williams Down Shift – Tesla is killing motorcyclists.Is the Tesla autopilot software not able to “see” motorcycles? In two recent event involving Tesla the apparent answer to that question is no.In July 2022 the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) sent investigation teams to two crashes where Tesla’s crashed into motorcycles on freeways in the darkness. Both were fatal.The first occurred 4:47 a.m. July 7 on State Route 91, a California freeway. A white Tesla Model Y was traveling east in the high occupancy vehicle lane. Ahead of the Tesla was a rider on a Yamaha V-Star motorcycle.The vehicles collided, and the unidentified motorcyclist was ejected from the Yamaha. He was pronounced dead at the scene by the Fire Department.The second crash happened about 1AM July 24 on Interstate 15 near Draper, Utah. A Tesla Model 3 was behind a Harley-Davidson motorcycle, also in an HOV lane. “The driver of the Tesla did not see the motorcyclist and collided with the back of the motorcycle, which threw the rider from the bike,” the Utah Department of Public Safety said in a prepared statement.The motorcyclist was pronounced died at the scene.From 2016 to now the NHTSA has investigated 39 crashes involving autopilot features 30 of which were Tesla. The Tesla’s involved 19 deaths. My Take – Not sure why it is taking so long to issue a recall for this autopilot feature? Tesla is taking the brunt of the investigations but is that because they are worse than the other manufactures or because there are more Tesla’s on the road.My recommendation…. If you see a Tesla coming up behind you, get out of the way. There is no way to know if the dummy driving the car is on autopilot or not.
    People in cars of any make don't see motorcycle's autopilot or not nothing new there...Its just that Teslas and in Particular Non Politician Ethan Musk are the easy targets of the mainstream News Outlets..
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    It amazes me that ANY vehicle driven on public roads is allowed to have auto-pilot capability. Driving a vehicle requires full attention at all times and I don't understand why this is allowed, along with all of the other distractions (TV, games, etc., etc.). Just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunman View Post
    It amazes me that ANY vehicle driven on public roads is allowed to have auto-pilot capability. Driving a vehicle requires full attention at all times and I don't understand why this is allowed, along with all of the other distractions (TV, games, etc., etc.). Just my opinion.

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    Sunman I agree. How many pedestrians, bicycle rider and motorcycle riders need to be killed before DOT says enough is enough. That doesn't even count the number of motorists driving these auto pilot cars that are being killed because they are not paying attention. I'm all for innovation but the world should not be the ginny pig.
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    You think that a Tesla is bad. Wait until you have an 80,000 pound Semi on auto pilot coming at you.
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    Me’ I personally think that automatic transmissions’ power steering ‘power brakes should be outlawed and let people get back to the act driving ! That will immediately remove 50% of the nimrods that are on the road today….
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino 2 View Post
    Me’ I personally think that automatic transmissions’ power steering ‘power brakes should be outlawed and let people get back to the act driving ! That will immediately remove 50% of the nimrods that are on the road today….
    Agree 100%, we are living with a new class of idiots that have no clue about how things really work

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    Just curious.. if one is legally drunk, gets into his auto-pilot car, sets it up while sitting still, puts the vehicle in motion, and the auto-pilot malfunctions causing a crash….will the owner be charged with DWI? He personally, physically was not driving the vehicle when the auto-pilot caused the crash to occur but is merely the passenger…????
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    Quote Originally Posted by paws View Post
    Just curious.. if one is legally drunk, gets into his auto-pilot car, sets it up while sitting still, puts the vehicle in motion, and the auto-pilot malfunctions causing a crash….will the owner be charged with DWI? He personally, physically was not driving the vehicle when the auto-pilot caused the crash to occur but is merely the passenger…????
    Having an autopilot does not eliminate the need to have a real person keep diligent watch. That's weather in a plane, boat, car, or truck. I know there are some trials going on with pilotless vehicles. I'm very uneasy about that. My last boat had an autopilot. That didn't mean I could be dead drunk or take a snooze while under way. Too many bad variables out there that need human intervention to avoid crashes. I believe setting an autopilot does not eliminate the need to have a competent, sober person keeping watch..... Jim
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    I may be wrong here but it's my understanding if you are behind the wheel drunk sitting still you can still be charged with DUI.I'm sure there's a bit more to it than that but applying that thought process I would have to say yes.I think it's an intent viewpoint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc H View Post
    I may be wrong here but it's my understanding if you are behind the wheel drunk sitting still you can still be charged with DUI.I'm sure there's a bit more to it than that but applying that thought process I would have to say yes.I think it's an intent viewpoint.
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    Wait until you have an 80,000 pound Semi on auto pilot coming at you.

    Before I retired from Dow chemical (2009), the railroad was talking about using driverless train engines. Our plant manager told the railroad: "There's NO WAY that train will be exchanging cars in our plant". That idea never came to fruition, but I don't know if it was because others complained, too.

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    it's my understanding if you are behind the wheel drunk sitting still you can still be charged with DUI.



    Have heard this before and never thought it was fair. Just because you're in the car while drunk doesn't mean you WILL drive it, only that you COULD. Seems like a good defense attorney should have a heyday with this charge. Or is there another reason?

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