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    Default Back to the shop not having a good run

    Got the TG back 11 days ago after being in the shop over 2 months from the deer accident.

    Everything was working great.

    Have managed to get almost 250 miles on it and road to work all week.

    Coming home on a 2-lane state highway running 60 I start hearing a loud rattling sound coming from the engine.

    Got pulled over into a driveway and shut it down.

    Fired it back up and it sounds like something came loose in the top end. Called the shop and they showed up in about an hour.

    When he started to load it, he said it sounded like a pushrod, rocker or lifter.

    Waiting to ride again

    This is getting old

    Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardwickbv View Post
    Got the TG back 11 days ago after being in the shop over 2 months from the deer accident.

    Everything was working great.

    Have managed to get almost 250 miles on it and road to work all week.

    Coming home on a 2-lane state highway running 60 I start hearing a loud rattling sound coming from the engine.

    Got pulled over into a driveway and shut it down.

    Fired it back up and it sounds like something came loose in the top end. Called the shop and they showed up in about an hour.

    When he started to load it, he said it sounded like a pushrod, rocker or lifter.

    Waiting to ride again

    This is getting old

    Bob
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    That really sucks, I will be watching here for more details

    Best of luck for you
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    Quote Originally Posted by hardwickbv View Post
    Got the TG back 11 days ago after being in the shop over 2 months from the deer accident.

    Everything was working great.

    Have managed to get almost 250 miles on it and road to work all week.

    Coming home on a 2-lane state highway running 60 I start hearing a loud rattling sound coming from the engine.

    Got pulled over into a driveway and shut it down.

    Fired it back up and it sounds like something came loose in the top end. Called the shop and they showed up in about an hour.

    When he started to load it, he said it sounded like a pushrod, rocker or lifter.

    Waiting to ride again

    This is getting old

    Bob
    Keep us in the loop. Hopefully, the problem will be solved and you will be back in the saddle.

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    I feel for you Bob, hopefully nothing serious.
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    Default Got a call from the shop

    Shop called this afternoon which surprised me because I figured it would be at least a week before they could get to it.

    Said that the top end was starved for oil causing something to come loose, scored both cylinder walls.

    Also said it had the old-style oil pump which may have caused sumping.

    They are replacing the oil pump and the top end, should get it back in a couple weeks.

    All covered by the extended warranty.

    He did try to talk me into not using the oil filter relocation.

    Told him that wasn't happening

    Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardwickbv View Post
    Shop called this afternoon which surprised me because I figured it would be at least a week before they could get to it.

    Said that the top end was starved for oil causing something to come loose, scored both cylinder walls.

    Also said it had the old-style oil pump which may have caused sumping.

    They are replacing the oil pump and the top end, should get it back in a couple weeks.

    All covered by the extended warranty.

    He did try to talk me into not using the oil filter relocation.



    Told him that wasn't happening

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    Im surprised that they didn't try to blame it on that....?.
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    Wonder if the piston oilers came loose?

    That can surely cause sumping, the new oil pump will help
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    So I talked to the service rep today and they said they got into it farther and found more parts damaged, Cam and other stuff.

    Said they had to raise it to a tier 2 when they called it in and got it approved.

    He also said that if they sent someone out to look, they would deny the fix due to the oil filter relocation, and I should remove it.

    Still giving me the story of 1 person having problems with it after installing one.

    Not buying it!!! Sounds like scare tactics to me.

    Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardwickbv View Post
    So I talked to the service rep today and they said they got into it farther and found more parts damaged, Cam and other stuff. Said they had to raise it to a tier 2 when they called it in and got it approved. He also said that if they sent someone out to look, they would deny the fix due to the oil filter relocation, and I should remove it. Still giving me the story of 1 person having problems with it after installing one. Not buying it!!! Sounds like scare tactics to me. Bob
    Put it back on when they're done?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardwickbv View Post
    So I talked to the service rep today and they said they got into it farther and found more parts damaged, Cam and other stuff.

    Said they had to raise it to a tier 2 when they called it in and got it approved.

    He also said that if they sent someone out to look, they would deny the fix due to the oil filter relocation, and I should remove it.

    Still giving me the story of 1 person having problems with it after installing one.

    Not buying it!!! Sounds like scare tactics to me.

    Bob
    I agree about scare tactics, but for now to be safe I would remove it

    I think the burden of proof would be on them to prove but again why take chances JMO and best of luck for you
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    Quote Originally Posted by hardwickbv View Post
    So I talked to the service rep today and they said they got into it farther and found more parts damaged, Cam and other stuff.

    Said they had to raise it to a tier 2 when they called it in and got it approved.

    He also said that if they sent someone out to look, they would deny the fix due to the oil filter relocation, and I should remove it.

    Still giving me the story of 1 person having problems with it after installing one.

    Not buying it!!! Sounds like scare tactics to me.

    Bob
    How long has it been on there ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROAD DOG View Post
    How long has it been on there ?
    I installed the relocation kit 3 months after I bought it new in 2017 and the Outlaw oil filter was put on 3 months later.

    So, it has been on for 5 years and the better part of 78000 miles.

    Also have installed an oil cooler sometime after that.

    They are not removing it but have strongly suggested I should.

    Seriously thinking about talking with Jim Palmer about a different solution.

    Only have 1 1/2 years left on the HD plan.

    Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardwickbv View Post
    I installed the relocation kit 3 months after I bought it new in 2017 and the Outlaw oil filter was put on 3 months later.

    So, it has been on for 5 years and the better part of 78000 miles.

    Also have installed an oil cooler sometime after that.

    They are not removing it but have strongly suggested I should.

    Seriously thinking about talking with Jim Palmer about a different solution.

    Only have 1 1/2 years left on the HD plan.

    Bob
    Harley warranty I would get it pulled off there NOW It wont take 30 minutes. Harley sees that its BY BY warranty . I had two cancelled

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROAD DOG View Post
    Harley warranty I would get it pulled off there NOW It wont take 30 minutes. Harley sees that its BY BY warranty . I had two cancelled
    I agree. On m 2012 CVO Ultra only two months old I was running on the interstate after dark and hit a landscaping timber - a big one. Bent the front and rear wheel rims and damaged both tires. I was lucky I did not crash. It literally launched me into the air. Fortunately I had Harley's ESP with wheel and tire coverage but they came to inspect. Inspector asked if bike had a trailer hitch as if that would have any bearing on the incident. He was just looking for way to cancel coverage. Fortunately the service manager on his own volition had removed my Bushtec trailer hitch. Lucky me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardwickbv View Post
    I installed the relocation kit 3 months after I bought it new in 2017 and the Outlaw oil filter was put on 3 months later.

    So, it has been on for 5 years and the better part of 78000 miles.

    Also have installed an oil cooler sometime after that.

    They are not removing it but have strongly suggested I should.

    Seriously thinking about talking with Jim Palmer about a different solution.

    Only have 1 1/2 years left on the HD plan.

    Bob
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    Default Got it back again

    Just picked it up from the shop entire top end was rebuilt with Came in at around $3700 including 16 hours of labor all covered by ESP.

    Essentially a new engine. 

    We'll see how long it lasts.

    Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardwickbv View Post
    Just picked it up from the shop entire top end was rebuilt with Came in at around $3700 including 16 hours of labor all covered by ESP.

    Essentially a new engine. 

    We'll see how long it lasts.

    Bob
    Glad to hear that worked out for you

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