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    Has anyone paid a dealer to lube your 14 and up tri glide neck bearings? I've called all over North Carolina and got an estimates from $155, which I know is ridiculously low, to over $600 which I thought was very high. My manual says it should be done at 25,000 miles. So it should be included in the 25,000 mi service. But it's not. One dealer told me they shouldn't have to be serviced until 50 or 75,000 miles. I could do them myself but if it was only a matter of a couple of hundred dollars I would have it done as it's a real pain in the ass. I know it's a big job but what is the going price?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue1 View Post
    Has anyone paid a dealer to lube your 14 and up tri glide neck bearings? I've called all over North Carolina and got an estimates from $155, which I know is ridiculously low, to over $600 which I thought was very high. My manual says it should be done at 25,000 miles. So it should be included in the 25,000 mi service. But it's not. One dealer told me they shouldn't have to be serviced until 50 or 75,000 miles. I could do them myself but if it was only a matter of a couple of hundred dollars I would have it done as it's a real pain in the ass. I know it's a big job but what is the going price?
    My 2011 triglide had a grease nipples jerk fitting on the neck but it’s hard to see and that’s a simple job. I don’t know what year ? But with Later triglides they stopped with the grease fitting so now becomes a job maybe somebody can help you on what year they discontinued the fitting (Jerk fitting..?)..
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino 2 View Post
    My 2011 triglide had a grease nipples jerk fitting on the neck but it’s hard to see and that’s a simple job. I don’t know what year ? But with Later triglides they stopped with the grease fitting so now becomes a job maybe somebody can help you on what year they discontinued the fitting (Jerk fitting..?)..
    '14 and later models do not have the zerk fitting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue1 View Post
    14 and later models do not have the zerk fitting.
    I guess Harley figured they would throw their dealers a bone so that they could charge more than it would be for a simple jerk fitting grease job ..🤔..
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    The 2017 flat rate manual calls for 2.4 hours labor. Doubt that has changed much if any since no changes made to the trike. And if your dealer is like mine they bump up the flat rate hours by 50% so my dealer would charge 3.6 hours labor at $125 per hour plus 5% for shop supplies making it about $475 in labor plus any sales tax and parts. Earlier this year I had the dealer flush the clutch and brake lines on my 2020 TG and the final bill was $446.98 for labor, fluid, supplies and tax. I won't be doing that again . . . and I won't be having the steering stem serviced any time soon. Got 32k on my 2020 TG and it handles just fine. No matter the mother ship says to service at 25k I'm just not doing it until I perceive a need. JMHO and your mileage may vary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ultrafxr View Post
    The 2017 flat rate manual calls for 2.4 hours labor. Doubt that has changed much if any since no changes made to the trike. And if your dealer is like mine they bump up the flat rate hours by 50% so my dealer would charge 3.6 hours labor at $125 per hour plus 5% for shop supplies making it about $475 in labor plus any sales tax and parts. Earlier this year I had the dealer flush the clutch and brake lines on my 2020 TG and the final bill was $446.98 for labor, fluid, supplies and tax. I won't be doing that again . . . and I won't be having the steering stem serviced any time soon. Got 32k on my 2020 TG and it handles just fine. No matter the mother ship says to service at 25k I'm just not doing it until I perceive a need. JMHO and your mileage may vary.
    I’m wondering if it’s worth the price to drill and tap for zerks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olddog View Post
    I’m wondering if it’s worth the price to drill and tap for zerks?
    I think if you put a zerk fitting on the newer bikes you would be filling a void in the neck with grease and I don't think it would even come close to the bearings. I think the older frames were partitioned so the grease went to the bearings. I could also be mistaken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue1 View Post
    I think if you put a zerk fitting on the newer bikes you would be filling a void in the neck with grease and I don't think it would even come close to the bearings. I think the older frames were partitioned so the grease went to the bearings. I could also be mistaken.
    I do know when they used to have the jerk fittings. There was a complaint if you grease too much the grease would drip down the tube and onto the front of the engine never bothered me I just wiped up the mess but then again I don’t have a trailer queen that has to be spotless..😁..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue1 View Post
    I think if you put a zerk fitting on the newer bikes you would be filling a void in the neck with grease and I don't think it would even come close to the bearings. I think the older frames were partitioned so the grease went to the bearings. I could also be mistaken.
    When they changed the Touring frame is when this no longer worked with a grease fitting

    The change was also made to later Dyna frames also
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    The grease fitting was hit or miss as far as lubricating the steering head bearings.

    Often the grease would not get to the top bearing.

    I think the grease fittings were discontinued because the factory has deemed it necessary to actually inspect the bearings at 25K.
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    To update the post, has anyone lubed the bearings themselves and if so how long did it take?
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    To be sure there is a way to put a Zerk fitting on there to DIY the greasing. On my 07 I pumped almost a whole damn tube of red n tacky in there until it started to ooze out. I knew it had grease in there then. Never had an issue yet with dripping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Notgrownup View Post
    To be sure there is a way to put a Zerk fitting on there to DIY the greasing. On my 07 I pumped almost a whole damn tube of red n tacky in there until it started to ooze out. I knew it had grease in there then. Never had an issue yet with dripping.
    Sure sounds like the way that farmer/rancher lubes equipment. I also have to be very careful with "farmer tight' on fasteners. Working on Harleys made me resort to torque wrenches and locktite. I'm still wondering if installing a zerk can be done?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olddog View Post
    Sure sounds like the way that farmer/rancher lubes equipment. I also have to be very careful with "farmer tight' on fasteners. Working on Harleys made me resort to torque wrenches and locktite. I'm still wondering if installing a zerk can be done?
    I sure think it can be done but with the limited amount of space around the steering stem I do think it would be a pia. The $64 question however is this: since H-D did not plan for the bearings to be lubed via a zerk fitting in the steering stem would the grease even get to the area that needs the lube? I've not seen a late model steering stem disassembled and am not smart enough to tell from the parts diagram if this would work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ultrafxr View Post
    I sure think it can be done but with the limited amount of space around the steering stem I do think it would be a pia. The $64 question however is this: since H-D did not plan for the bearings to be lubed via a zerk fitting in the steering stem would the grease even get to the area that needs the lube? I've not seen a late model steering stem disassembled and am not smart enough to tell from the parts diagram if this would work.
    Totally agree. I'm hoping that someone who has had the the "new" model steering head assembly apart will comment on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ultrafxr View Post
    I sure think it can be done but with the limited amount of space around the steering stem I do think it would be a pia. The $64 question however is this: since H-D did not plan for the bearings to be lubed via a zerk fitting in the steering stem would the grease even get to the area that needs the lube? I've not seen a late model steering stem disassembled and am not smart enough to tell from the parts diagram if this would work.
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    Totally agree. I'm hoping that someone who has had the the "new" model steering head assembly apart will comment on this.
    If the neck was drilled and tapped for a fitting, dead center it would service both of the bearings and stem, much the same as the grease fitting on the shift shart( no longer done at the factory) but I still do them on late model Harleys

    The problem with doing late model Harley necks is there is soooo much clutter to get thru before you could even start to drill

    I had a 97 Electra Glide Standard I bought new that had no grease fitting in the neck, there was a raised boss where the neck should have one, so I drilled and tapped that one as soon as I got it home
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    In this picture of the newer Trike frames I would drill and tap dead center between the top and bottom of the neck

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    Quote Originally Posted by ultrafxr View Post
    The 2017 flat rate manual calls for 2.4 hours labor. Doubt that has changed much if any since no changes made to the trike. And if your dealer is like mine they bump up the flat rate hours by 50% so my dealer would charge 3.6 hours labor at $125 per hour plus 5% for shop supplies making it about $475 in labor plus any sales tax and parts. Earlier this year I had the dealer flush the clutch and brake lines on my 2020 TG and the final bill was $446.98 for labor, fluid, supplies and tax. I won't be doing that again . . . and I won't be having the steering stem serviced any time soon. Got 32k on my 2020 TG and it handles just fine. No matter the mother ship says to service at 25k I'm just not doing it until I perceive a need. JMHO and your mileage may vary.
    I'm right there with you on this one. I'm just not doing it until I perceive a need. Very seldom in my life have I ever done a stearing head bearing grease job on my motorcycles. If I bought a used motorcycle with a condition that maybe required a look into the stearing head bearing, then I would tackle it. Example: purchase a motorcycle that is pretty weathered. This is in the 70's, 80's and 90's. Now more technology had been poured into the bearings. New Motorcycle, such as mine, I would just check it the old fashion way by lifting the front wheel off the ground and checking for free play and if there is any then I would be looking into it. If you find free play then something is going on in there that probably needs attention.
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    Big question here, is the neck open to the frame ? If it is you would be filling the frame full of grease while pumping away. Maybe someone has the front end off of a 14 and newer touring bike and can take a look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by headheaded View Post
    Big question here, is the neck open to the frame ? If it is you would be filling the frame full of grease while pumping away. Maybe someone has the front end off of a 14 and newer touring bike and can take a look.
    Good question! That would be exactly my luck! I'm hoping that someone can answer this from first hand experience.

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