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    Good afternoon Y'all,

    I am making preparations for the first oil change on my trike. In all the video's I have watched it shows the bike being lifted and level when draining oil from the 3 drain plugs under the DCT model. In the attached photo you can see that I backed the rear wheels up on ramps and left the front tire on the garage floor. This gives me plenty of room to work under the bike. Is there a problem draining the oil with the bike in this unlevel position or should I use my jack to raise the front end as well? TIA.

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    I can't imagine why you couldn't change everything with the trike sitting flat on the ground. I change mine on a lift but only because it makes it easier. To be honest I don't know about Honda Trikes.
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    I have 2 sets of ramps and use 3 ramps and drive all 3 tires up the ramps.

    Works slick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue1 View Post
    I can't imagine why you couldn't change everything with the trike sitting flat on the ground. I change mine on a lift but only because it makes it easier. To be honest I don't know about Honda Trikes.
    I agree, When changing oil, filter, coolant brake oil. My trike sits flat in the garage

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrokenBackJack View Post
    I have 2 sets of ramps and use 3 ramps and drive all 3 tires up the ramps.

    Works slick.
    I was considering buying another set of ramps and doing what you do. After watching a video of a guy who cracked his ground effects when driving down the ramps I reconsidered. I will have to check my clearance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue1 View Post
    I can't imagine why you couldn't change everything with the trike sitting flat on the ground. I change mine on a lift but only because it makes it easier. To be honest I don't know about Honda Trikes.
    It is the "easy factor" that peaked my interest in lifting as well.

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    Very easy idea here; to lift up your trike to make it level......

    I cut three 4X4 boards 17inch long........Jack up the rear first and place a cut 4x4 under each rear wheel, (place your bike in 1st gear so it won't roll) and then jack up the front of the bike and place a 4x4 under the front wheel........Now your 4inch high'rr and can crawl under it easier, and place an oil catch container under it w/o any difficulties....... easy pessy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burnerboy View Post
    Very easy idea here; to lift up your trike to make it level......

    I cut three 4X4 boards 17inch long........Jack up the rear first and place a cut 4x4 under each rear wheel, (place your bike in 1st gear so it won't roll) and then jack up the front of the bike and place a 4x4 under the front wheel........Now your 4inch high'rr and can crawl under it easier, and place an oil catch container under it w/o any difficulties....... easy pessy!

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    Thanks Ronnie,

    I ended up leaving the rear wheels on the ramps and jacking up the front tire and placing two pave stones under the front tire. I removed the jack and the drain pan fit well with room to spare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrokenBackJack View Post
    I have 2 sets of ramps and use 3 ramps and drive all 3 tires up the ramps.Works slick.
    This is what I did before I put a lift in my shop, I always try to level what ever I'm working on
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leaky Waders View Post
    Thanks Ronnie,

    I ended up leaving the rear wheels on the ramps and jacking up the front tire and placing two pave stones under the front tire. I removed the jack and the drain pan fit well with room to spare.

    Paul
    Paul,

    Sounds like you did what you had to do, and "cheap'rrr ($$$) than, what, I had suggested..........and it works! Good for you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leaky Waders View Post
    Good afternoon Y'all,

    I am making preparations for the first oil change on my trike. In all the video's I have watched it shows the bike being lifted and level when draining oil from the 3 drain plugs under the DCT model. In the attached photo you can see that I backed the rear wheels up on ramps and left the front tire on the garage floor. This gives me plenty of room to work under the bike. Is there a problem draining the oil with the bike in this unlevel position or should I use my jack to raise the front end as well? TIA.

    Paul
    The problem with trikes is not removing the oil or filter(s), but refilling the oil to a proper oil level. Rarely does a trike's engine sit at the same "slant" as an OEM Wing, thus a trike becomes challenging when topping the oil off to it's proper level.
    Please keep in mind that anytime I share or give advise about a motorcycle, unless I state otherwise, I am always referring to GL1800's and no other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldWingrGreg View Post
    The problem with trikes is not removing the oil or filter(s), but refilling the oil to a proper oil level. Rarely does a trike's engine sit at the same "slant" as an OEM Wing, thus a trike becomes challenging when topping the oil off to it's proper level.
    OMG Gregg,

    It good to hear from you again...........

    I have a 2010 Goldwing trike (Roadsmith) can you give me the actual amount of oil to use when changing both oil ~n~ filter ...(I always just put in the 3.9 QTS THAT THE BOOK CALLS FOR............ and always Honda oil like you quoted in the Gl1800 forum..

    PS: I'm Captron (gl1800 forum) wife ~n~ I visited you a few years ago at your shop and you were so nice.............. we will be back in Fla early November again for a few days vacation....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burnerboy View Post
    OMG Gregg,

    It good to hear from you again...........

    I have a 2010 Goldwing trike (Roadsmith) can you give me the actual amount of oil to use when changing both oil ~n~ filter ...(I always just put in the 3.9 QTS THAT THE BOOK CALLS FOR............ and always Honda oil like you quoted in the Gl1800 forum..

    PS: I'm Captron (gl1800 forum) wife ~n~ I visited you a few years ago at your shop and you were so nice.............. we will be back in Fla early November again for a few days vacation....

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    Hey Ronnie ... how are things.

    As for your question, I have no idea. All trikes have a different forward/rearward slant or lean. For 5th gens, at my shop, on my shop floor, here is what we do. We take a stock OEM 5th gen Wing with a correct front tire and air pressure, and centerstand it ... on my floor. Then we lay a common 12" Stanely yellow level accross the right valve cover, and we look at the position of the bubble in the glass. We use the bubbles position as a referance. We do all trikes this way.

    When a trike comes in for an oil change, we place the same level on the right valve cover and lift either the front or rear to duplicate where the bubble is for a 2-wheel. We the adjust the oil level accordingly.
    Please keep in mind that anytime I share or give advise about a motorcycle, unless I state otherwise, I am always referring to GL1800's and no other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldWingrGreg View Post
    Hey Ronnie ... how are things.

    As for your question, I have no idea. All trikes have a different forward/rearward slant or lean. For 5th gens, at my shop, on my shop floor, here is what we do. We take a stock OEM 5th gen Wing with a correct front tire and air pressure, and centerstand it ... on my floor. Then we lay a common 12" Stanely yellow level accross the right valve cover, and we look at the position of the bubble in the glass. We use the bubbles position as a referance. We do all trikes this way.

    When a trike comes in for an oil change, we place the same level on the right valve cover and lift either the front or rear to duplicate where the bubble is for a 2-wheel. We the adjust the oil level accordingly.
    What would happen if you just Dumped in 4 full Quarts of oil ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROAD DOG View Post
    What would happen if you just Dumped in 4 full Quarts of oil ?
    If the trike sits low up front, and the oil was drained, it probably means that more then 4 qts was drained, and adding 4 is not enough.

    If the trike sits low in the rear, it probably means much less the 4 was drained, and adding 4 means it's overfilled.
    Please keep in mind that anytime I share or give advise about a motorcycle, unless I state otherwise, I am always referring to GL1800's and no other.

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    As always Gregg (I like your think'n) good idea, I have a level, and about to change out my oil again (I'm an oil changeOHLIC) and believe frequent, changes are good for the engine.......... The book claims every 8,000 miles...and I always follow what the booklet says, BUT 8 thousand miles is way to many for me, I usually change it at 3,000 or more often if I'm going on a long trip

    Ronnie 2/1/6/23

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leaky Waders View Post
    Good afternoon Y'all,

    Is there a problem draining the oil with the bike in this unlevel position or should I use my jack to raise the front end as well? TIA.

    Paul
    For us the biggest problem with doing oil changes on trikes, is not the draining of the oil, but refilling them to their proper level. For example, when their ass-end is up like that, they can "over drain," and adding the "recommended" amount after an oil and filter change can be way off.

    He we use a Stanley level across a valve cover to know. On our shop floor, we know where the bubble lands and a stock Wing, and "level" a trike accordingly.

    For example, about 3-weeks ago we had a 2-whl 5th gen in that had been lowered in the rear and also had a lowered ride-off center stand, and it came in for a tire and an oil change. The only way that I of to get the engine at its correct angle, to properly top off the oil was to lift the rearend with a gantry.

    Although I didn't charge the customer an add'l labor charge during this visit, I did advised him that next time their will be.
    Please keep in mind that anytime I share or give advise about a motorcycle, unless I state otherwise, I am always referring to GL1800's and no other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldWingrGreg View Post
    For us the biggest problem with doing oil changes on trikes, is not the draining of the oil, but refilling them to their proper level. For example, when their ass-end is up like that, they can "over drain," and adding the "recommended" amount after an oil and filter change can be way off.

    He we use a Stanley level across a valve cover to know. On our shop floor, we know where the bubble lands and a stock Wing, and "level" a trike accordingly.

    For example, about 3-weeks ago we had a 2-whl 5th gen in that had been lowered in the rear and also had a lowered ride-off center stand, and it came in for a tire and an oil change. The only way that I of to get the engine at its correct angle, to properly top off the oil was to lift the rearend with a gantry.

    Although I didn't charge the customer an add'l labor charge during this visit, I did advised him that next time their will be.
    Thanks Greg,

    I ended up jacking up the front end to as close to level with the rear as my eyes could detect before draining and replacing the oil and filters. Next time I will use a small bubble level.

    Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldWingrGreg View Post
    For us the biggest problem with doing oil changes on trikes, is not the draining of the oil, but refilling them to their proper level. For example, when their ass-end is up like that, they can "over drain," and adding the "recommended" amount after an oil and filter change can be way off.

    He we use a Stanley level across a valve cover to know. On our shop floor, we know where the bubble lands and a stock Wing, and "level" a trike accordingly.

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    Greg where does the bubble land? A picture would be great
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    Quote Originally Posted by woody View Post
    Greg where does the bubble land? A picture would be great
    I took this a long time ago and have no idea what the orange lines are for. But here we put the level on the righ valve cover and jack to get the bubble as shown.

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    Please keep in mind that anytime I share or give advise about a motorcycle, unless I state otherwise, I am always referring to GL1800's and no other.

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    Thanks I will have a look at mine today
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldWingrGreg View Post
    QUOTE=woody;917904]Greg where does the bubble land? A picture would be great
    I took this a long time ago and have no idea what the orange lines are for. But here we put the level on the righ valve cover and jack to get the bubble as shown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrokenBackJack View Post

    What about 2018+ Goldwing Trikes?
    Havn't had to figue that out yet ... we've not had a 6th gen trike in.
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    I took this a long time ago and have no idea what the orange lines are for. But here we put the level on the righ valve cover and jack to get the bubble as shown.

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    I checked the oil today with my trike on a level floor. I put a level on the valve cover and the bubble was all the way forward. The level on the dipstick was right at the full mark. I raised the rear of the bike 3 inches to put the bubble at the same position as illustrated. The oil was very slightly below the full mark.

    At the next oil change I will measure how much oil was drained in both positions and report back. Seat of the pants observation indicates, on my trike, that it won't make much of a difference.

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    Greg and Rob I found this interesting. I checked the level on mine and the bubble was all the way to the rear so I checked the oil level and then pushed the trike front wheel on a 2x6 I had and it put the bubble right at center rechecked the oil level and there is very little difference. So my opinion is if when checking my oil level I'll just keep it on the full mark, since there is a safety zone there that should be good.
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    On 5th and 6th gen Wings, hopefully when checking the oil level, everyones following the steps in the Owner's Manual. Start and run for 3-5mins, turn off, and check in 2-3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldWingrGreg View Post
    On 5th and 6th gen Wings, hopefully when checking the oil level, everyones following the steps in the Owner's Manual. Start and run for 3-5mins, turn off, and check in 2-3.
    Again, Thank you Gregg

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    Here are the results of my oil change on my 2012 Reverse Trike.

    Since my trike is lower in the rear I drained the oil with it on the ground.

    In order to get my trike at the same level as the one pictured I raised the rear of the trike 3 inches. And drained the rest of the oil. I got about 3 more ounces. I changed the filter.

    I put 1 Gallon of oil in it while the rear was raised. After idling to get the new oil throughout the system the oil level was right at the full mark. I put the bike back on the floor and the level was slightly above full.

    My conclusion, for my setup, is the difference between the two methods is minute. Not enough to go through the extra hassle.

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