Hard pan rod

[Jack Klarich]

I can't believe HD would replace the hard pan rod after the bike is out of warranty. That happens in April 2023 so I probably won't be able to get enough miles on it to wear out the next one. I am itching to get out already as I got the stage 1 upgrade just before snow hit and only got to ride 30-35 miles. I can't wait for spring!

Have that converstion with your dealer, find out what the warranty period is, get it in writting

HD knows this is a high wear item, that said get it in writting

[Mykneesbehurtin]

This gives me an idea, as soon as I get my bike back. I will check my panhard rod and if it has no slop, I will remove it and build a jig. That way I can rebuild it when it does go bad, along with all my buddies.

[Rogue1]

Can anyone give me the size of the heim joints needed?

[Koolbreeze]

Can anyone give me the size of the heim joints needed?

Both are right hand thread from what I gather.

QSC XMR-8, 1/2 X 1/2-20 Chromoly Teflon Kevlar Male RH Rod End

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[Rogue1]

Thanks Kool

[Road couch rider]

So I just got my tike back yesterday. The service manager had multiple discussions with the MoCo about the heim joint ssue. He said that 2020 trikes had a nylon washer on both ends of the rod. In 2021 and later models the engineers decided to eliminate those washers. I can't figure out how a nylon washer would keep the heims from wearing out but I ain't the sharpest tool in the shed! He says he thinks all 2021 and later trikes will have that issue. He also was willing to bet that 2024 will be sporting 2 ”extra" nylon washers. Apparently the MoCo was not aware of the problem until my machine? I am skeptical about having no more problems but I will find out.

[Koolbreeze]

So I just got my tike back yesterday. The service manager had multiple discussions with the MoCo about the heim joint ssue. He said that 2020 trikes had a nylon washer on both ends of the rod. In 2021 and later models the engineers decided to eliminate those washers. I can't figure out how a nylon washer would keep the heims from wearing out but I ain't the sharpest tool in the shed! He says he thinks all 2021 and later trikes will have that issue. He also was willing to bet that 2024 will be sporting 2 ”extra" nylon washers. Apparently the MoCo was not aware of the problem until my machine? I am skeptical about having no more problems but I will find out.

Do you know if the MOCO authorized the dealer to put the 2 nylon washers on your Panhard rod?

Yep sure enough, there is a difference to the mounting hardware between the 2020 and 2021. Mine is a 2019 so it still has the washers. Going to have to check it anyhow for wear.

[Old Road Dog]

So I just got my tike back yesterday. The service manager had multiple discussions with the MoCo about the heim joint ssue. He said that 2020 trikes had a nylon washer on both ends of the rod. In 2021 and later models the engineers decided to eliminate those washers. I can't figure out how a nylon washer would keep the heims from wearing out but I ain't the sharpest tool in the shed! He says he thinks all 2021 and later trikes will have that issue. He also was willing to bet that 2024 will be sporting 2 ”extra" nylon washers. Apparently the MoCo was not aware of the problem until my machine? I am skeptical about having no more problems but I will find out.

OK enough of this bullshit. The joints HD are using are dog crap ok? I wont stand for having what little intelligence I have being insulted by some kid ( thats right)at a dealership. Nylon washer or no- they are not the cause one way or the other.

[Olddog]

Bottom line, will replacing the factory heim joints fix the problem?

[Jack Klarich]

Bottom line, will replacing the factory heim joints fix the problem?

Yes, but it is a high wear item

[Olddog]

Yes, but it is a high wear item

I should have been more direct with my question. Would better quality heim replacements increase longevity. Thanks