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    Cool Very little rear brakes

    My rear brakes seem to work only on slight inclines and there is no stopping power any other time.

    I had it in the shop and had him clean the cylinders, replaced the fluid and bleed the front and back lines, and still no rear brakes

    He said there was no interconnect with the front brakes, could that be the problem??? He said he could jury rig a line to fix the problem and said that the Brake pads have a lot of pad left on them.

    It was another thread about the interconnect but he never came back and answered what RS told him whether yes or no

    I have a 2001 GL 1800 with a 2008 RS conversion

    Is there another fix or is there a brake adjustment that I can do ????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mactell View Post
    My rear brakes seem to work only on slight inclines and there is no stopping power any other time.

    I had it in the shop and had him clean the cylinders, replaced the fluid and bleed the front and back lines, and still no rear brakes

    He said there was no interconnect with the front brakes, could that be the problem??? He said he could jury rig a line to fix the problem and said that the Brake pads have a lot of pad left on them.

    It was another thread about the interconnect but he never came back and answered what RS told him whether yes or no

    I have a 2001 GL 1800 with a 2008 RS conversion

    Is there another fix or is there a brake adjustment that I can do ????

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    I'd give Roadsmith a call (they are very helpful on the phone to customer's with questions)

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    Hi Adee, Give Roadsmith a call and ask if your Trike has a residual check valve for the rear brakes
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    Default Very little rear brakes

    I will try RS and ask if your Trike has a residual check valve for the rear brakes on Monday

    But I have not got to many answers from ?? I asked

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mactell View Post
    I will try RS and ask if your Trike has a residual check valve for the rear brakes on Monday

    But I have not got to many answers from ?? I asked

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    Let us know what they say, seems this question comes up quite a bit, good luck
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    I have provided a link to the Roadsmith installation manual for the GL1800 https://roadsmithtrikes.com/wp-conte...0-COMPLETE.pdf Something may have been overlooked during the installation. #35 explains the brakes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trike lady View Post
    I have provided a link to the Roadsmith installation manual for the GL1800 https://roadsmithtrikes.com/wp-conte...0-COMPLETE.pdf Something may have been overlooked during the installation. #35 explains the brakes.
    Thanks Trike Lady for the PDF. I have that one and it kind of tells you that they did disconnect, removed parts and cap off the brakes.

    From the manual....

    35a. Remove the other steel brake line from the hose fitting letting the rubber hose (connected to the bike) drain. This hose will no longer be used.

    Cap the anti-dive cylinder using the stock banjo bolt and sealing washers and the provided banjo fitting spacer block on the THE SECONDARY MASTER CYLINDER

    37. REMOVE THE SECONDARY MASTER CYLINDER with upper rubber brake hose from the left front fork.

    37b. To remove the other end of the rubber line: follow the line from the top of the secondary master cylinder to the junction block bolted to the left side of the steering neck, disconnect the steel line from the block, then unbolt the block from the steering neck.

    NOTE: This brake line is no longer used- the other end is the one you disconnected and let drain earlier.

    37d. Remove secondary master cylinder bolts, (save one upper bolt) remove and discard cylinder and hose.

    37e. After the secondary master cylinder and upper hose have been removed, cap the line fitting previously connected to the middle of the secondary master cylinder using stock banjo bolt, sealing washers and provided cap.

    Called Roadsmith and asked for Mark but he haven't gotten back with an answer yet.

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    Default Very little rear brakes

    Just got off the phone with roadsmith. He said they didn't start putting Residual check valve into the Honda RS Trikes until somewhere around 2012-2013.

    So anything below that didn't have any, but you can buy a kit to connect your front and rear brakes together, it's about $27 and some change plus shipping - total $40.25.

    So I ordered one today, get it in probably 7 to 10 days.

    He says the reason why I might not have rear brakes is that I may need the master cylinder replace. I am hoping not.

    Next thing, getting it to the shop 87 miles away.

    Thank you for the help and I appreciate it. And hoping to be riding soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mactell View Post
    Just got off the phone with roadsmith. He said they didn't start putting Residual check valve into the Honda RS Trikes until somewhere around 2012-2013.

    So anything below that didn't have any, but you can buy a kit to connect your front and rear brakes together, it's about $27 and some change plus shipping - total $40.25.

    So I ordered one today, get it in probably 7 to 10 days.

    He says the reason why I might not have rear brakes is that I may need the master cylinder replace. I am hoping not.

    Next thing, getting it to the shop 87 miles away.

    Thank you for the help and I appreciate it. And hoping to be riding soon.
    You said in your first post the mechanic cleaned the cylinders, what does that mean ?

    You also said they bled the brakes, that did not help, how did they explain that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Klarich View Post
    You said in your first post the mechanic cleaned the cylinders, what does that mean ?

    You also said they bled the brakes, that did not help, how did they explain that?
    Maybe I should have said the mechanic cleaned out the Reservoir it had a lot of gunk in it.

    He told me that the front brakes in the rear brakes wasn't connected and that he could jerry rig a hose to connect them. I ordered a kit from RS last week, That will tie the front and rear brake together. So it should be coming in beginning of next week hopefully. Also have him checked the rear brake cylinder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mactell View Post
    Maybe I should have said the mechanic cleaned out the Reservoir it had a lot of gunk in it.

    He told me that the front brakes in the rear brakes wasn't connected and that he could jerry rig a hose to connect them. I ordered a kit from RS last week, That will tie the front and rear brake together. So it should be coming in beginning of next week hopefully. Also have him checked the rear brake cylinder.
    This is an interesting thread, I'm experiencing the exact same thing with my Valkyrie Roadsmith trike and rear brake pad always felt soft.

    I recently had the master brake cylinder replaced, brake system bled and cleaned, but the pedal is still too soft.

    1) Are you saying the front and rear brakes are supposed to be connected, but aren't meaning the installer didn't do it?

    2) You talked to Roadsmith and they said the kit they are sending will resolve this?, which would be great.

    Would be nice if this was the fix, but now reading below, may not fix it, mine was installed in 2018 and I assume would have the residual check valve.

    He said they didn't start putting Residual check valve into the Honda RS Trikes until somewhere around 2012-2013.

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    Frank

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    Are you still have'n a problem Frank??

    I was hope'n to hear that "Brad did indeed find your problem, and had replaced that M/brake cylinder.................

    Give me a call/ and lunch soon ................I hope!

    Ronnie

    5/7/23

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burnerboy View Post
    Are you still have'n a problem Frank??

    I was hope'n to hear that "Brad did indeed find your problem, and had replaced that M/brake cylinder.................

    Give me a call/ and lunch soon ................I hope!

    Ronnie

    5/7/23
    Hi Ronnie, yes the brake issue you knew about has been fixed perfectly by Brad.

    The brake pedal is not a big issue, I have good brakes, they feel soft, going a little low when I use the pedal, looking at this forum, seems like it's a common question/issue.

    Will call Roadsmith this week

    Frank

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    Looking forward too hearing what your situation is with your brakes................ Hope Brad, does his "thing" and all is well......

    I can feel another lunch date, is due..... hopefully soon!

    Always good "hang'n with you............... You're a good man sir!

    Ronnie

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