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    Default "F" "L" "R" "T" ????

    I'm pretty sure that this had to have been addressed multiple times here, so I apologize up front if you guys are saying "really, again?" but as a newbie I'm giving myself a pass and hope all you guys & gals are ok with it. Now that being said ... Harley gives letter designations to all their models and the Freewheeler gets the "FLRT" Every resource agrees that the "F" is for Big Twin, The "L" is for "Large Front End" and the "R" is never addressed and the "T" has several meanings?

    So I just had Vanity Plates done and I included "FLRT" into the tag. They came out great and I have always had them done for all my previous bikes and most of my cars as well. Just a little personal touch that I definitely enjoy. I spent a minute or two trying to look up the "FLRT" actual meaning on the World Wide Web with several different results. A Vintage Harley Davidson site said "Text Us And We'll Unravel It For You" I did do that and they answered me within hours. That alone was impressive. They say "F" = Big Twin, "L" = Large Front End, "R" = Road King and "T" = Trike. ... Yes? No?

    As Usual ... any input is always greatly appreciated

    Thanks so much
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    T= Touring
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Klarich View Post
    T= Touring
    Oh so Close buddy ... and "R" = ? Bet my wife that you had it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noodles107 View Post
    Oh so Close buddy ... and "R" = ? Bet my wife that you had it.

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    I think FLRT is FL Big Twin, R RoadKing ( for the nacelle look) T for Touring or maybe Trike
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Klarich View Post
    I think FLRT is FL Big Twin, R RoadKing ( for the nacelle look) T for Touring or maybe Trike
    .....T 'Is for trike.....And the R Is silent... Put them all together [F'L'R'T] And they spell in Harely'nese....Freewheeler...
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    Historically...the MOCO used letter designations to describe the ENGINE not necessarily the frame it was mounted in. For example the most beautiful HD ever built ( my opinion) was the 1971 FX "Sparkling America". F= factory OHV, X= experimental, more shocking than the bikes looks was the use of Sportster high compression heads.Add the Sportster front end and you had a bike that made quite a stir among the knowledgeable base. My '76 FXE...F= factory OHV, X= experimental. E= electric ( start). I will check my vast library of reference material and see when this all tuurned to shit- I think after the introduction of the Evo motor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino 2 View Post
    .....T 'Is for trike.....And the R Is silent... Put them all together [F'L'R'T] And they spell in Harely'nese....Freewheeler...


    Your All wrong FLRT = F@CKIN LOUSY RIDIN TRIKE

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    They say "F" = Big Twin, "L" = Large Front End, "R" = Road King and "T" = Trike. ... Yes? No?

    As Usual ... any input is always greatly appreciated

    Thanks so much [/QUOTE]

    Incorrect. Prior to the "F" OHV, The 1936 EL((OHV) 61c.i.( 1000 cc) "knucklehead" set the stage for the 1941 FL ( ohv) 74 c.i. motor. So the "L" was the early designation for OHV motor and had nothing to do with the front end. BTW: the '36 design was so beautiful elements of it can be seen in the Crossbones. It was easy to" bob" those fenders and create an instant custom- sorta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROAD DOG View Post
    Your All wrong FLRT = F@CKIN LOUSY RIDIN TRIKE
    Hahaha. I also have a StupidGlide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Road Dog View Post
    They say "F" = Big Twin, "L" = Large Front End, "R" = Road King and "T" = Trike. ... Yes? No?

    As Usual ... any input is always greatly appreciated

    Thanks so much
    Incorrect. Prior to the "F" OHV, The 1936 EL((OHV) 61c.i.( 1000 cc) "knucklehead" set the stage for the 1941 FL ( ohv) 74 c.i. motor. So the "L" was the early designation for OHV motor and had nothing to do with the front end. BTW: the '36 design was so beautiful elements of it can be seen in the Crossbones. It was easy to" bob" those fenders and create an instant custom- sorta.[/QUOTE]

    Thanks for playing ORD ... I see that you do have all the things that it "isn't" and some cool info on some vintage bikes. Any input on what it actually "is"? I'm a musician (among many other cool things) and have several Gibson Guitars. You can call Gibson 24/7 and a person will answer any and all your questions. Give them the serial # of the Guitar you would like info on and they will tell you everything about it. You would think that a company like Harley Davidson would have a similar resource ... You would think
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    1st Letter: This signifies the engine series.

    G = Servicar three wheeler, 1937 to 1972

    E = Overhead valve 61 cubic inch "big twin" (Engine and trans separated)

    F = Overhead valve "Big Twin"

    K = Side valve 45 and 55 cubic inch sports bike that replaced the WL in 1953 and was replaced by the Sportster® in 1957.

    U = Side valve "big twin"

    V - Side valve 74 cubic inch 1930-36

    W - Side valve 45 cubic inch made 1937 to 1952

    X = Sports and Special Construction

    V = Revolution Motor

    2nd Letter: Identifies the front end size

    *This excludes the Sportster & V-Rod Models

    L = Wide front tire and Hydra-Glide style front forks

    X = Narrow Tire and Sport Forks

    3rd Letter: Designates the frame style.

    *This is where you can differentiate between a Touring, Softail, or Dyna Model

    H/T = Highway/Touring Frame

    ST = Softail Frame

    D = Dyna Frame

    Any additional letter indicates features that may accompany that particular bike family. This is usually where the confusion occurs since Harley tends to use the same letter to designate different features of a bike.

    R - Rubber mounted engine (some models) racing version (other models)

    T - Touring

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Road Dog View Post
    Historically...the MOCO used letter designations to describe the ENGINE not necessarily the frame it was mounted in.
    Interesting. I always thought they named them after the frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Klarich View Post
    1st Letter: This signifies the engine series.

    G = Servicar three wheeler, 1937 to 1972

    E = Overhead valve 61 cubic inch "big twin" (Engine and trans separated)

    F = Overhead valve "Big Twin"

    K = Side valve 45 and 55 cubic inch sports bike that replaced the WL in 1953 and was replaced by the Sportster® in 1957.

    U = Side valve "big twin"

    V - Side valve 74 cubic inch 1930-36

    W - Side valve 45 cubic inch made 1937 to 1952

    X = Sports and Special Construction

    V = Revolution Motor

    2nd Letter: Identifies the front end size

    *This excludes the Sportster & V-Rod Models

    L = Wide front tire and Hydra-Glide style front forks

    X = Narrow Tire and Sport Forks

    3rd Letter: Designates the frame style.

    *This is where you can differentiate between a Touring, Softail, or Dyna Model

    H/T = Highway/Touring Frame

    ST = Softail Frame

    D = Dyna Frame

    Any additional letter indicates features that may accompany that particular bike family. This is usually where the confusion occurs since Harley tends to use the same letter to designate different features of a bike.

    R - Rubber mounted engine (some models) racing version (other models)

    T - Touring

    Fun research project Jack, or not so much Everyone seems to agree on those 1st 2 letters. The "F" being Big Twin and the "L" being Large Front End. A wide variety of ideas on the "R" and the "T" ... All pretty cool and I know the Police won't come if I choose my fave (and easiest to explain) version. Thanks as always ...

    So I'm getting ... "I see the Florida Retired but what is the 17" and "17 Flirt what does that mean" I even got a "First Last & Ready To Travel" Of course bike dudes and dudets know it's the model designation but I'm also having fun making stuff up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROAD DOG View Post
    Your All wrong FLRT = F@CKIN LOUSY RIDIN TRIKE

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