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    Default Lehman Pads

    Greetings all!!!

    I'm having an issue, or at least I think I am with the brake pads on the kit. They seem to not travel back to where they should and seem to rub the disk pretty much all the time. I've cleaned the stems used to hold the brakes and made sure they were in good shape. I saw something the other day about someone putting a little grease on the travel pins on a set of breaks for a car. Not sure if I'm being clear enough but I'm wondering if I put a little grease on the mounting stems, do you think that will help the pads back off better from the rotor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTNW View Post
    Greetings all!!!

    I'm having an issue, or at least I think I am with the brake pads on the kit. They seem to not travel back to where they should and seem to rub the disk pretty much all the time. I've cleaned the stems used to hold the brakes and made sure they were in good shape. I saw something the other day about someone putting a little grease on the travel pins on a set of breaks for a car. Not sure if I'm being clear enough but I'm wondering if I put a little grease on the mounting stems, do you think that will help the pads back off better from the rotor?

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    The pads on disk brakes will always rub the rotor (very lightly)..With the engine off in neutral on level ground if you could roll the Trike back-and-forth by hand easily then they are not rubbing to much..
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    Bob is correct. Disc brakes set up with very little clearance. That said if your brakes are dragging bad you may consider removing the pads, pushing the caliper dust shields flat and cleaning your pistons. This sometimes helps the pistons to release fully after braking.

    Another question to consider is do you have a residual check valve on the rear brakes?

    Some hold more pressure than others, this can add to drag
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    If its a Monarch II they have a tendency to make the rubbing noise while riding. This was a particular issue with all Monarch IIs and Lehman never quite fixed the issue with the Polaris calipers.

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    Disc brake pads should not travel far enough to see it once released, they stay withing skimming distance to the rotor. As long as they just hang there with no pressure behind them, they are fine. They move, but it's just enough that they aren't braking.
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    Hey Chuck,

    all of the above replies are 100% correct.

    I do and always have used brake quiet on my motorcycles and ATVs. Apply a bead to the mating surfaces of the pads to piston, and pad guides. Also lubricate the guide pins. Many videos how and where to use. Usually alleviates brake squeals nearly 100% unless you have a faulty brake system component.

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    This comes from many different manufacturers as you can imagine, and over the last 30 years I haven't found any specific better than the other. This particular one is just one of my last ones I bought.

    Hope this helps.

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    Also Jim Murphy and Al Timm always recommended when changing pads on Monarch IIs to use the anti-squeal on the pads due to the issues with the calipers with the pads. They recommended BG stop Squeal coatings for the pads.

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    Default 2005 Lehman Monarch 11 Trike

    Mick, I purchased my Lehman through Jim Murphy and have had to deal with squealing brakes from day one. He even put special pads on. He never mentioned or used the Stop Squeal on my trike. Right now I am in the market for some new pads. Do you know where, I can purchase a set for my 2005 Monarch 11 ?? Have about 51,000 on it.
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    EBC FA314R

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    Jim and Al and I had lenghty discussions about the calipers and pads. With using everything from the disc brake quiet on the back to the anti squeal on the pads. Some trikes seem to be more prone to it than others.The joke of it all is if they had drum brakes the pads would last longer than the disc pads and be a lot easier to deal with. Ive tried even using the grease on the back and the anti squeal on new pads seems to be the best solution as of yet.

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    Maybe it’s Apples 🍎 to Oranges 🍊 but I had a 2008 Spyder and every time I hit the brakes it sounded like a garbage truck stopping and the only thing that work was the anti-squeal it made a mess but it worked..
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino 2 View Post
    Maybe it’s Apples 🍎 to Oranges 🍊 but I had a 2008 Spyder and every time I hit the brakes it sounded like a garbage truck stopping and the only thing that work was the anti-squeal it made a mess but it worked..
    On my own, I found the only thing I could do, was to not hit the brakes lightly. What ever works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick View Post
    EBC FA314R

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    Jim and Al and I had lenghty discussions about the calipers and pads. With using everything from the disc brake quiet on the back to the anti squeal on the pads. Some trikes seem to be more prone to it than others.The joke of it all is if they had drum brakes the pads would last longer than the disc pads and be a lot easier to deal with. Ive tried even using the grease on the back and the anti squeal on new pads seems to be the best solution as of yet.
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    Default FA 314R

    Quote Originally Posted by Baldy_54 View Post
    Mick, I purchased my Lehman through Jim Murphy and have had to deal with squealing brakes from day one. He even put special pads on. He never mentioned or used the Stop Squeal on my trike. Right now I am in the market for some new pads. Do you know where, I can purchase a set for my 2005 Monarch 11 ?? Have about 51,000 on it.
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