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    Default Erratic Reverse Motor Operation… Is The End Near?

    I picked up my TriGlide a few days ago from my dealer after having some winter work done.

    The first time I engaged reverse, I felt the customary “lurch”, then there was a pause (note I never took my thumb off of reverse engagement) then it “lurched” again and continued to back up normally.

    Hmmmm… duly noted. Didn’t do it again the next time I engaged reverse (at home, as a test).

    Today, reverse behaved normally (I need it to back out of my garage. Once I’m half way out the garage, with the driveway on a downward slope, I disengage reverse and let natural physics take over).

    After a nice 200 plus mile ride, I stopped by my dealer and when I attempted to back it into a parking space, same issue. With my thumb on the reverse engagement button, it “paused” then continued in reverse.

    When I got home (on flat ground) I tried engaging reverse a few times and I had an instance when it “paused”, but did not continue to back up.

    I continued to press the reverse engagement button for like 5 seconds… nothing. Reverse “R” light was solid (no blinking). I took my thumb off the button then pressed down again and it immediately “lurched” and acted fine.

    I’m suspecting my reverse motor is not long for this world. It’s under an extended warranty so I’m covered, but… thought I’d ask you all to get some opinions.

    A mechanical reverse isn’t in the picture since I have the extended warranty. I’m just looking to see if anyone else has experienced the symptoms described and if they found a solution.

    My guess is the solution is replacing the reverse motor.

    And also, reverse is something I need and use. I don’t “abuse it”, but I “use it”.

    Thanks in advance everyone!
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    Warranty will not pick up till it dies . I’ve been wrong before , but I think that’s how the program works .
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1dn5up View Post
    Warranty will not pick up till it dies . I’ve been wrong before , but I think that’s how the program works .
    Tell them it died and you had to push but it started back to working but it is not working right. After they replace it ask if you could have the old one back. I did that and I was told it had to be turned in for warranty but when I picked up my bike it was in the tour pack. I took it apart and cleaned the brushes and holders. so I would have a spare for when the warranty was gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1dn5up View Post
    Warranty will not pick up till it dies . I’ve been wrong before , but I think that’s how the program works .
    I'll find out next week! It's either the motor, switch or wiring... But something ain't working right! Switch would be the easiest thing to swap out and try first, IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1dn5up View Post
    Warranty will not pick up till it dies . I’ve been wrong before , but I think that’s how the program works .
    Thats easy back up a long Steep hill, that will Cook it, They burn up on flat land

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROAD DOG View Post
    Thats easy back up a long Steep hill, that will Cook it, They burn up on flat land
    This is what I would do, cook it and get the warranty to replace it

    It is for sure a weak link by HD IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by woody View Post
    Tell them it died and you had to push but it started back to working but it is not working right. After they replace it ask if you could have the old one back. I did that and I was told it had to be turned in for warranty but when I picked up my bike it was in the tour pack. I took it apart and cleaned the brushes and holders. so I would have a spare for when the warranty was gone.
    And now ya go rid of the Harley. You can donate the started to me at MV & I would be very happy. I would rebuild for a spare .lol
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    How old is your battery?

    May have the voltage but the Amperage may be getting lower if the battery is 3 or more years old.

    May be worthwhile to get it load tested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koolbreeze View Post
    How old is your battery?

    May have the voltage but the Amperage may be getting lower if the battery is 3 or more years old.

    May be worthwhile to get it load tested.
    2nd season... but worth doing anyway. I will suggest that is done when I bring it in next week.
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    Update… my dealer replaced the reverse motor under warranty, even thought it wasn’t “completely” DOA.

    It acted up on demand when I brought it in for service… that’s all they needed to see.

    Road out today… all good to go.

    All’s well in trike land…
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    Just rebuilt the reverse motor on my brothers Tri. Lasted 10 years. Instead of getting ass raped by the dealer here's what youll need: OEM Z/M solenoid( save and use your old plunger) for reverse motor 83388-09/9A. Reverse motor armature and brush holder w/ brushes. You can find them on Fleabay for a total cost of around $ 120.00+-.The plunger is proprietary and HD doesnt sell it separately - at least thats what I was told.

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