New Brake Shoes Locking Up 2004 Lehman Goldwing

[rhino 2]

Harley Davidson made Trikes (Servi-Cars)Way back in 1932.....

Not much has changed! same rough ride, reverse worked back then [/QUOTE]

That’s ok….Harley is just waiting for some one else to do the free research and development for them..

[Jack Klarich]

Not much has changed! same rough ride, reverse worked back then

That’s ok….Harley is just waiting for some one else to do the free research and development for them..[/QUOTE]

Servicars were 3 speeds with mechanical reverse in the tranny from the factory

[ROAD DOG]

That’s ok….Harley is just waiting for some one else to do the free research and development for them..

Servicars were 3 speeds with mechanical reverse in the tranny from the factory[/QUOTE]

To bad they changed that Transmission It was a good one. Jack you cant use the word Tranny some people may not no what your talking about. See a bumper sticker the other day It read, Remember when somebody would say I blew my Tranny it meant they were having car problems.

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Not much has changed! same rough ride, reverse worked back then

That’s ok….Harley is just waiting for some one else to do the free research and development for them..[/QUOTE]

To Bad they didn't have Lehman do that for them before they Bankrupted them.

[Ray & Paula]

Sorry, I've been away..... I've been gathering parts to throw at this brake mess along with playing catch up on everything else but, I'm getting ready to jump back in. I received my new drums from NAPA using the Lehman Trike part number but, they wouldn't seat properly due to the lug studs being slightly larger past the threads. I actually tightened the new drum onto two of the stud bolts by hand using a socket wrench in which I couldn't remove without the use of a puller....

Couldn't believe it.....

I'm sending those back and am looking at others to try and came across a company called Dynamic Friction (link below). It appears that they're made here in the the U.S. and are balanced along with being painted. Biggest visual difference is the lack of cooling fins. As foer the company, it appears to be rock solid. I did receive my other parts, a new SMC, Raybestos riveted shoes, spring kit and a pneumatic vacuum brake bleeder. Funny thing, the shoes are painted practically the same color as my trike..... Interesting to say the least. I did order Wagner riveted shoes but, the Raybestos rivets looked much better along with a little more pad.

Sorry, I had to split this post due to forum character rules. Please continue to next post....

[Ray & Paula]

Continued from previous post;

My first attempt will be get the (currently installed) brake shoes properly adjusted > Try to lock them up while on jack stands or road test > If the brakes lock up and/or are close to it, I'll follow up with more diagnosing. I came across a post in another forum stating how to diagnose the SMC and the PCV & Delay Valve in a lock up situation (link below). If it's the SMC, I'll move forward in changing the shoes to the rivited ones. From that point on either way, I'm going to drain the rear brake hydraulic system > Swap out the SMC since I have it > Check all the rubber brake lines I can get at > followup by re-filling / bleeding the entire system for the umpteeth time.... This time, I'll make sure I bleed off the SMC by cracking open the banjo bolt as I did with the rear MC. I'll also bleed the junction block. This added procedure is known as the Rocky bleed that's mentioned throughout many forums. Basically, I'm going to follow the Honda SMC recall instructions from 2015 (pdf below) but, with the Lehman trike sequence and Rocky bleed. Hopefully, this will be the cure. Please, if you feel I need correcting on any of this and/or if anyone has any other suggestions I would sincerely appreciate your input. Thanks again for all your help!! Ray

Brake Drums - Dynamic Friction Company: https://www.dynamicfriction.com/products/brake-drums

Diagnosing SMC - See Post #41: https://www.cbrxx.com/threads/second...k.34538/page-3

Honda SMC & Rear MC Recall Instruction .pdf Download Link: https://www.gl1800riders.com/attachm...nt-pdf.327333/

[Jack Klarich]

I stopped using bonded brake shoes many years ago

Experience taught me of problems with premature wear, noise and brake lock up, results with bonded shoes

While this may not be a cure all, it is an over all improvement in braking and worth it IMO

[Ray & Paula]

I stopped using bonded brake shoes many years ago

Experience taught me of problems with premature wear, noise and brake lock up, results with bonded shoes

While this may not be a cure all, it is an over all improvement in braking and worth it IMO

Thanks Jack.... Your suggestion earlier on is why I went ahead and got these. I totally agree with you, and the quality can be seen. I even ordered a second set (both from Amazon) but, the second set even though from the same seller were bonded. I may have gotten lucky finding these rivited ones. With them being red helps me believe even more so..... LOL. Thanks again. Ray

[Jack Klarich]

Thanks Jack.... Your suggestion earlier on is why I went ahead and got these. I totally agree with you, and the quality can be seen. I even ordered a second set (both from Amazon) but, the second set even though from the same seller were bonded. I may have gotten lucky finding these rivited ones. With them being red helps me believe even more so..... LOL. Thanks again. Ray

Raybestos brakes use a nice red powder-coat on shoes and pads, quality brake parts you can trust

[Ray & Paula]

Raybestos brakes use a nice red powder-coat on shoes and pads, quality brake parts you can trust

Thanks Jack, that's great to know.