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Thread: Tuners: What are they and why we need them?

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    Default Tuners: What are they and why we need them?

    I found a FuelPak3 tuner (unistalled) in my trike trunk, I would like to know more about them. An saw a video on YouTube that made no sense to me. Why do you need a person that is a tuner to install that percise Fuel Pak 3 tuner. and why will it void all warranties if changed on a Harley Davidson. This inquiring mind wants to know.

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    Harley entered into a shady ( at best) consent decree with the EPA

    Pretty much giving HD the right to cancel a power train warranty on all Harley's following the launch of the M8 platform, if you have a related engine issue and go to a HD dealer for service they will hook your bike/ trike to a scanner and upload the info to corporate HD

    If you have an unapproved fueling device your VIN will be flagged and power train warranty will be voided

    The V& H fuel oak is an OK fueler but if you have any factory or HD extended warranty, it will be void using this or any non HD tuner

    You can read the consent decree here

    https://www.epa.gov/sites/default/files/2017-12/documents/harleydavidson-

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    I see your trike is a 14 model twin cam, the decree does not affect your bike, It does need a tuner, TC engines are way to lean ( hot running ) from the factory
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    Default Tuner

    Thanks Jack, How do you find the right person to install the tuner I saw the Dr. Harley video on YouTube. He was adement that only a Fuel Pak3 tech could install them WHY?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whosyour daddyO View Post
    Thanks Jack, How do you find the right person to install the tuner I saw the Dr. Harley video on YouTube. He was adement that only a Fuel Pak3 tech could install them WHY?
    Here,

    https://www.fuelpakfi.com/downloads.html

    But first, did the Fuel Pak come with the bike when you bought it?

    I would give V and H a call@





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    When I purchased my TG, it also had a FP3 sitting in the trunk. At the time of purchase, I also purchased the HD extended warranty. I connected the tuner, installed the app on my phone and was able to use it. If I ever bring the TG to the dealership, I remove the FP3. They have never refused to service the trike under warranty for the few issues so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halfnormal View Post
    When I purchased my TG, it also had a FP3 sitting in the trunk. At the time of purchase, I also purchased the HD extended warranty. I connected the tuner, installed the app on my phone and was able to use it. If I ever bring the TG to the dealership, I remove the FP3. They have never refused to service the trike under warranty for the few issues so far.
    You should not have any problems with your tuner, HD started the crack down after the M8 made its debut (2017 models and on)

    The consent decree they entered into ( via the EPA) gave Harley the power to void the power train warranty

    You were forced to use HD tuner only if you wanted to keep your warranty
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whosyour daddyO View Post
    Thanks Jack, How do you find the right person to install the tuner I saw the Dr. Harley video on YouTube. He was adement that only a Fuel Pak3 tech could install them WHY?
    Have you tried hooking up the fuel pak?

    It would be interesting to see if it would display any usable info

    There are no big secrets to hooking up and enabling a fuel pak, there are many good YouTube videos on how to do it, there is also tech help @ V& H

    Fuelpak Customer Service, contact them for more info below









    For technical support and troubleshooting your Fuelpak product please call (562) 921-0071 or email tech@fuelpakfi.com.











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