Parking brake for Hannigan and others ..

[flyer91]

I just posted this to another forum in response to a question about a parking brake for a Hannigan trike.<br />
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So FWIW ........<br />
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On my Quads there is a spring loaded device that slips into the brake lever opening/gap (between the end of the lever and the pivot housing) when the lever is pulled. <br />
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You have to hold it in place, then release the lever for it to stay in there, but it makes the brake stay on.<br />
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As soon as you pull the brake lever again, the spring moves the device out of there, allowing the brake to operate as normal, and keeps the device from entering the area at the wrong time<br />
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I have a machine shop in my garage and am going to see about making something similar for my trike.<br />
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As a side note ...... I am also going to be making a mod to my pegs so they can stay folded up like the passenger pegs. <br />
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I like the room that the floor boards provide with them removed, but prefer to have them in traffic.<br />
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When I do that mod I'll take a closer look at what's needed to do the "parking brake" mod to the front brake.<br />
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If worse comes to worse, just a simple clamp to hold the front brake on will also work, but I want it to be as clean as the parking brake on my quad ... which is a Polaris Sportsman 700 (in case you have access to one and can better see what I'm talking about).<br />
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Here's an image of one that is 'kind-of' like the one on my quad.<br />
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<img src="http://i21.ebayimg.com/02/i/08/d3/93/10_1.JPG" border="0" alt="" /><br />
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It's the little rocker lever at the top right of the main brake lever.<br />
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You engage it by lifting the leftmost part away from the main lever, when you have the main brake lever pulled in, so it fills the gap and holds the brake on.<br />
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Once you pull the brake lever again, it springs out of the gap, and operation is normal.<br />
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The brake on a Polaris quad is on the left side, and the parking brake device on mine is designed to be less prone to being engaged at the wrong time, than (IMO) is this particular type (I would want a spur on the main lever in front of this type, so the act of engaging it was not so prone to being as ...... arbitrary) but the theory remains the same.<br />
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Anyway, I'll come up with something that doesn't negatively impact the existing mechanical integrity of the GL's parts. <br />
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P.S. If you want quick and dirty ... a simple small wedge (with a hole drilled into the fat end so it could be tied to your right bar for keeping) could be slipped into the gap between the lower tab extension of the brake lever and the housing, when you have the brake pulled. Just be cautious of the small switches and hold the pointed egde of the wedge against the tab so it pushes against the top of the switch's domes, as opposed to the sides of them.<br />
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But I want something .........

that is as elegant as the one on the Polaris. <img src="images/smilies/wink.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg" />

 

[Lee H. Mann]

Subpart B - Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards

§571.122 Standard No. 122; Motorcycle brake systems.

S5.1.4 Parking brake. Each three-wheeled motorcycle shall be equipped with a parking brake of a friction type with a solely mechanical means to retain engagement.

Standard No. 122; Motorcycle brake systems. - Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

 

[Bob Witte]

Funny that this should come up right after I published an article discussing this exact same issue in our <i>"Trinity Trike Tribune"</i> newsletter. Although I've already posted a link to the <i>Tribune </i>itself earlier this week, since it is short, I've pasted in an edited copy of the parking brake article below: <br />
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<i><b><font size="4">Parking Brakes, What Goes Around, Comes Around:</font></b><br />
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Our first parking brakes were simplicity itself – a couple of 10” long Velcro straps that you were to lash around one or both hand brake levers (after pulling in the handles of course!). This method was effective, but all around not the best implementation. Next we tried to use the Wilwood mechanical brake tied into the OEM brake lever. Although that worked, it was and is very “touchy” to keep properly adjusted not to mention the time and effort it added to the kit installation. And the adjustment requires crawling under the bike and getting behind the right side plate. It is not at all convenient, even for those with access to a trike lift (and how many have one of them??) <br />
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So we kept looking for another solution that would work well and most importantly be an easy retrofit installation. Taking a look at what the ATV industry does and a page out of own history, we went back to another handlebar implementation. This time it is a rubber wedge that is to be inserted in front of the pivot point of the brake levers after pulling the brake back. This use of one brake is more than enough for most situations, but we are supplying two wedges so both front and rear brakes are ready to use for parking.

I’ll save another 2000 words with these pictures: <br />
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<img src="http://thetrinitytrike.com/images/frontparkingbrake.jpg" border="0" alt="" /> <br />
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<img src="http://thetrinitytrike.com/images/rearparkingbrake.jpg" border="0" alt="" /> <br />
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Although of necessity, these were developed for the automatic CVT’s, this wedge should work on virtually all bike front hand brake systems (both two wheelers and trikes). Right now we have to freehand cut these wedges on a band saw for the units we are shipping currently. We are seeking out a way to machine cut the material for a cleaner look. We priced having them cut on a waterjet, but I refuse to have to sell them at waterjet prices! So for those who need them now, in their artistically hand made form, they are just $5.00 each, including first class shipping. Don’t send cash, personal checks are fine, or PayPal the appropriate amount to our account at <a href="mailto:Online@TrinityTrike.com">Online@TrinityTrike.com</a> ).</i><br />
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As a postscript to the hand cutting situation, we just located a vendor yesterday who apparently is able to cut what we need at a price we can afford. So I'm expecting a test run of 20 pieces to come in next week.<br />
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Bob Witte<br />
<a href="http://www.TheTrinityTrike.com" target="_blank">The Trinity Trike</a>

 

[Veritas44]

The Legal/Regulatory requirement pertains only to trikes licensed in Canada. The brake must be mechanical in nature, have it's own caliper and pads and be seperate and apart from the trike's normal braking system. The obama-neered hand brake latches and catches don't satisfy the letter of the law. Our Canadian Brothers need to refer to their dealer or local law enforcement/government officer or agency for proper and knowledgable information on this and any other such issue. Assumptions, Opinions, and Rectums abound in these type venues (all three stink and are best kept to one's self) and can be quite dangerous and costly when taken as true and placed into application. <br />
Caveat Lector!<br />
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P.s. The UK and most of Europe have the same requirements as well as add that BOTH rear wheels must be locked down to qualify as a fulfilling "parking brake".

 

[flyer91]

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</div>Bob, I'm going to post your info on the GL1800 riders forum, Specifically the Trike sub-forum.<br />
That is where the original discussion I referred to, came from.<br />
The fellow is in Canada and I'm not sure it they will allow this type of system there, but there are other folks that could use this simple device.<br />
I was thinking something like a modified clothe peg, but I think your device would be much better as it would allow for cushioning on the little micro switches upon insertion were a wooden/plastic wedge might be too aggressive.

 

[Bob Witte]

Sounds good to me! :wave4:

 

[Chumbly]

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<div class="message">The Legal/Regulatory requirement pertains only to trikes licensed in Canada. The brake must be mechanical in nature, have it's own caliper and pads and be seperate and apart from the trike's normal braking system. The obama-neered hand brake latches and catches don't satisfy the letter of the law. Our Canadian Brothers need to refer to their dealer or local law enforcement/government officer or agency for proper and knowledgable information on this and any other such issue. Assumptions, Opinions, and Rectums abound in these type venues (all three stink and are best kept to one's self) and can be quite dangerous and costly when taken as true and placed into application. <br />
Caveat Lector!<br />
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P.s. The UK and most of Europe have the same requirements as well as add that BOTH rear wheels must be locked down to qualify as a fulfilling "parking brake".</div>

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</div>I don't know where in Canada you are refering.. I know of no such legislation in B.C. , Alberta, or Saskatchewan.... and I've lived here my whole life.

 

[dirtdobber]

What's wrong with putting it in reverse, after all the GL1800 comes with it.
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[pearlhawk]

My CSC on my 08 Goldwing doesnt have a parking brake so i have been using a very small bungee (about the dia of a straw) & wrap it around the right grip brake lever & so far it seems to work Great !!
Dont know if that will cause any problems down the road - but works fine & cheap fix 4 a slope !!:Coffee:

 

[Sgttj]

Chumbly, you need to get out of the west more often lol just kidding. Ontario requires a parking brake or you can not register your trike there. I've lived in Canada my whole life too. Half in Ontario and the other half in Alberta. I was the poster on the other site asking about the parking brake as we are thinking of moving to Ontario and I will be having my trike built soon. Its at the installers now and will pick up in the spring. As a note Hannigan does offer one and it is very expensive. I just hope its more than a wedge in the lever lol.

Tom

 

[Konrad]

Just in case no one has mentioned it before, the ROADSMITH comes with a parking brake, works well and is NOT an extra cost option. (Same thing with the trailer hitch!) My Roadsmith/Goldwing has become an integral part of my DNA!

 

[Carbon_One]

I've been using a small section of a bicycle inner tube. Just loop it over the front brake lever and onto the grip. Works well, simple, and is cheap.
I see that wouldn't satisfy our northern brothers officials thou.
Larry