Drivers license requiremebts for a Stallion in your state.

[trikerjack]

I am curious what the driver's license requirements are in other states. My wife is trying to get a license so that she can drive her Stallion in Arizona.

Arizona just classified it(March 2016) as a auto-cycle. The Stallion qualifies in every aspect except it has to have seat belts. With seat belts, there is no endorsement needed on a standard drivers license. I am not putting in seat belts.

Arizona will not let us let her take the driving course, as it is not compatible with the vehicle, it won' fit. The solution is in their opinion, have her take it on a two wheel motorcycle to get the MC endorsement. My bride soon to be 70 is not ever going to get on a two wheel bike. The other solution is go to a private driving school to the tune of $350.00 to $480.00.

Seems like a stupid costly solution.

 

[Big Dog]

Does Arizona offer a Trike Endorsement on the test? Alot of states do, for example in Florida I have the trike endorsment, if I get cought on a two wheeler it's like driving with out a license.

 

[rhino 2]

I am curious what the driver's license requirements are in other states. My wife is trying to get a license so that she can drive her Stallion in Arizona.

Arizona just classified it(March 2016) as a auto-cycle. The Stallion qualifies in every aspect except it has to have seat belts. With seat belts, there is no endorsement needed on a standard drivers license. I am not putting in seat belts.

Arizona will not let us let her take the driving course, as it is not compatible with the vehicle, it won' fit. The solution is in their opinion, have her take it on a two wheel motorcycle to get the MC endorsement. My bride soon to be 70 is not ever going to get on a two wheel bike. The other solution is go to a private driving school to the tune of $350.00 to $480.00.

Seems like a stupid costly solution.

Are you saying if you put seat belts in the Stallion she can drive it with just a standard drivers license...:Shrug:....And if so, why not Just put them in...:Shrug:

Sounds too simple i must be misunderstanding something....:Shrug:

 

[Ed Hobgood]

Missouri requires a motorcycle license to operate the Stallion.

 

[Gorilla]

I am curious what the driver's license requirements are in other states. My wife is trying to get a license so that she can drive her Stallion in Arizona.

Arizona just classified it(March 2016) as a auto-cycle. The Stallion qualifies in every aspect except it has to have seat belts. With seat belts, there is no endorsement needed on a standard drivers license. I am not putting in seat belts.

Arizona will not let us let her take the driving course, as it is not compatible with the vehicle, it won' fit. The solution is in their opinion, have her take it on a two wheel motorcycle to get the MC endorsement. My bride soon to be 70 is not ever going to get on a two wheel bike. The other solution is go to a private driving school to the tune of $350.00 to $480.00.

Seems like a stupid costly solution.

A thought: can she ride a TRI GLIDE? If she can then go rent one from a HD for the day or less if possible and get her license.

Then she is good to go. Then the next question becomes can you register the Stallion as anything else then a auto-cycle? If not you maybe stuck in a catch 22 situation, because if it HAS to be registered as an Auto-Cycle then it may have to have seat belts anyway. Most states at least for now register the Stallion as a motorcycle and some states even have a trike license. Good Luck

 

[rocket1lf]

WoW, I live here and didn't know they did a stupid thing like this. What does it say on your registration for a vehicle type? Mine renews in July and I'll have to check.

 

[Captain H]

I am curious what the driver's license requirements are in other states. My wife is trying to get a license so that she can drive her Stallion in Arizona.

Arizona just classified it(March 2016) as a auto-cycle. The Stallion qualifies in every aspect except it has to have seat belts. With seat belts, there is no endorsement needed on a standard drivers license. I am not putting in seat belts.

Arizona will not let us let her take the driving course, as it is not compatible with the vehicle, it won' fit. The solution is in their opinion, have her take it on a two wheel motorcycle to get the MC endorsement. My bride soon to be 70 is not ever going to get on a two wheel bike. The other solution is go to a private driving school to the tune of $350.00 to $480.00.

Seems like a stupid costly solution.

We got our license in Ma. in 2009, & we were told we could not take the MC class too.

I called the R.M.V. & asked if I needed a motor cycle license to drive a trike ? They asked how many wheels does it have ? Told them 3 , they said yes . I asked if I could take the road test on my trike ? They said yes , & the rest is history . Good luck , hope it all works out I know it can be difficult .

captain h

 

[rhino 2]

I don't know about the Stallion but it should be in the same class as the Slingshot, And in New Jersey the Slingshot is Registered as a MC....But you can drive it with just a standard drivers license and a helmet is not required.... But it would be wise to carry a copy of the regulations in the glove box...

 

[Markie]

WA State ...

In Washington State a three-wheeled vehicle does not require a trike endorsement for operation IF it meets the following criteria:

- Fully or partially enclosed
- Operable by steering wheel
- Equipped by the factory with seat belts

Obviously, the Stallion did not meet the third criteria ... therefore the wife and I had to get 3-wheel motorcycle endorsements in order to legally operate the rig.

 

[trikerjack]

Arizona li dnxd

WoW, I live here and didn't know they did a stupid thing like this. What does it say on your registration for a vehicle type? Mine renews in July and I'll have to check.

Rocket: The Stallion in Arizona is registered as a m/c with a m/c plate. I am told that in March 2016 the put in a class called auto-cycle. An auto cycle requires seatbelts, then there is no endorsement needed.

I cannot see putting in seat belts, but it would be cheaper to do that, whether they work or not, to avoid paying $450.00 for a motorcycle class to satisfy the MVD.

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Are you saying if you put seat belts in the Stallion she can drive it with just a standard drivers license...:Shrug:....And if so, why not Just put them in...:Shrug:

Sounds too simple i must be misunderstanding something....:Shrug:

Rhino 2: No you aren't misunderstanding anything.

I am just old and ornery, and I can't see why our neighboring states, CA and NV don't require an endorsement. I see no reason that they cannot create a driving course a person could take the test on. I think I will just put in seat belts, whether I will use them or not is another matter. It will be cheaper to drill some holes and put in seat belts than paying $450.00 to take a class to get an endorsement.

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Does Arizona offer a Trike Endorsement on the test? Alot of states do, for example in Florida I have the trike endorsment, if I get cought on a two wheeler it's like driving with out a license.

Arizona does have a trike endorsement. They just make it difficult with their small at times course to do it well on a trike of any size.

 

[Jerry126]

Stallion drivers license

My wife took her test in Illinois. The only difference in the motorcycle test is the cone test. She was not required to take it but her license is restricted to only driving a trike.

 

[rocket1lf]

Here is the statute for the Arizona law. The Stallion doesn't qualify as an Autocycle in several different areas. Rick

SB 1051 (Chapter 33): autocycles; class M license; exemption

Adds the definition of autocycle to statute and specifies that a person who drives an autocycle is not required to hold a Class M license. Defines autocycle as a three-wheeled motorcycle on which the driver and passengers ride in a completely enclosed seating area that is equipped with a roll cage, safety belts for each occupant and antilock brakes, and is designed to be controlled with a steering wheel and pedals. Effective: July 3, 2015.

 

[Gorilla]

Yep thats definitely not to apply to a stallion.

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Notice in the definition the auto-cycle is a sub item to a motorcycle. It says a motorcycle that: etc

 

[J-Bear]

A simple solution

Open the hood, find and photograph the sticker that says it is manufactured to be a motorcycle. Send to bureaucrats at DMV. Had this crop up last year when I was contemplating my upcoming safety training course which stated that you could not ride an <br />
'automotive-based' trike (picture modded trikes that are VW floor pan and drivetrain in back, motorcycle fork in front.) I checked with DMV in Virginia to see what they considered it, and at first ran into the "Autocycle" issue. 'You're in luck sir, no special license required, just install some seat belts." But you ride astraddle on top, not in a car seat, despite the throttle, brake and steering wheel. As I fumed, and formulated defenses and options, the man called back in an hour. "Oops, I was wrong, it's a motorcycle, you need a M3 license and a helmet." Then I opened the hood and saw the federal classification sticker. But here was my alternate plan: go find the lowest DMV clerk and register it how you want. They don't care how many angels you can fit on the head of a pin, "will that be cash, check or charge?"

is the hardest question you'll probably get.

 

[Charlie D]

Stallion regist.

Ill.requires a m/c lisc. but you can take the course with the stallion... PS you can pass it easy as they used my stallion to set up the course.

 

[J-Bear]

Autocycle

In Virginia, the auto cycle category is set up to be "not a car" and "not a motorcycle." There is a company beginning to make them here in this state ( http://www.tanommotors.com/about/ ) and this is why they have modified the laws. I took a private course sanctioned by the state, so when I got done, my certificate and license were converted to an M-3 (trike) license (this included a written test and performance of tasks we were trained to drive). The state didn't say what trikes they would train you on, the company did. I went ahead and rode one of the CanAm trikes they provided free to ride for the course. More challenging than my Stallion, so I feel I learned a different skill. One student lost it and crashed into a light pole base, and thrashed a CanAm, glad it wasn't me (he failed the class, wasn't really hurt). A few students rode their new CanAms or one man rode a Harley conversion. They trained us about sidecar rigs too, but nobody had one, so no practical experience on that.

 

[trikerjack]

Here is the statute for the Arizona law. The Stallion doesn't qualify as an Autocycle in several different areas. Rick

SB 1051 (Chapter 33): autocycles; class M license; exemption

Adds the definition of autocycle to statute and specifies that a person who drives an autocycle is not required to hold a Class M license. Defines autocycle as a three-wheeled motorcycle on which the driver and passengers ride in a completely enclosed seating area that is equipped with a roll cage, safety belts for each occupant and antilock brakes, and is designed to be controlled with a steering wheel and pedals. Effective: July 3, 2015.

Rocket: In Arizona, Tucson at least, I put in two seat belts and the Stallion is an Auto-Cycle.

The key is the seat belts. The lady at MVD gave me a copy of the regulation to carry in the Stallion in case I got stopped. $40.00 for two seat belts, beat paying $350-$450 to take a test at a private school. With seat belts no endorsement is needed.

 

[Dean H]

Is there a difference on insurance premium if titled motorcycle vs. auto-cycle?

 

[trikerjack]

Here is the statute for the Arizona law. The Stallion doesn't qualify as an Autocycle in several different areas. Rick

SB 1051 (Chapter 33): autocycles; class M license; exemption

Adds the definition of autocycle to statute and specifies that a person who drives an autocycle is not required to hold a Class M license. Defines autocycle as a three-wheeled motorcycle on which the driver and passengers ride in a completely enclosed seating area that is equipped with a roll cage, safety belts for each occupant and antilock brakes, and is designed to be controlled with a steering wheel and pedals. Effective: July 3, 2015.

Rocket: That's the law alright, don't know if the roll bar on the Stallion qualifies, and I don't think it has ABS. I am just happy my honey can drive it not.

 

[J-Bear]

Seat Belts and shrugging your shoulders

Rocket: In Arizona, Tucson at least, I put in two seat belts and the Stallion is an Auto-Cycle.

The key is the seat belts. The lady at MVD gave me a copy of the regulation to carry in the Stallion in case I got stopped. $40.00 for two seat belts, beat paying $350-$450 to take a test at a private school. With seat belts no endorsement is needed.

Ok, so if you install belts, you have to wear them. No way I’m strapping into the trike. Exactly where are the frame hard-points that you bolt them to? Don’t lay down to an idiot in the DMV. Go over their head. Your Stallion is manufactured under federal definition as a Motorcycle. A motorcycle with three wheels is a trike. Slap on a Mellon-saver, get licensed as required for a motorcycle.

regardless of all the two-wheel riders (the ones that are too snooty to acknowledge the facts, not all of them) and wags in the world, it’s a motorcycle. The auto cycle is an almost-car, Almost cycle hybrid. The laws suggested by their association are made so a person riding in something similar to a Slingshot (but with a roof) don’t need a helmet. They have tandem side-by-side seating, auto-style seats, auto-style controls, etc.

My Stallion is a motorcycle. I sit on a saddle, and plot my turns and then execute them, I lean to distribute my weight when making faster turns. Just because it has gas and brake pedals and a wheel doesn’t mean it’s not a motorcycle.

maybe i’m Beating a dead horse here (pun intended) but if Thoroughbred Motorsports intended your Trike to be an auto-cycle, God would have put a sticker that declared it to be an auto-cycle under the hood!

J-Bear