Dealer Dyno tune - is it worth the $$$$$$

nevtat said:

A couple of years ago, shortly after purchasing my used 2012 Triglide, the dealer installed cams, s-pipe, new map, induction system, etc. Since they didn't have a trike dyno at the time they "did the best [they] could" with the tune. They now have a trike dyno and want $700 for a tune. The engine is running very well right now and I can't seem to justify $700 for a dyno tune. Any thoughts on this issue?

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DK Custom Products said:

For $500 you can get the best tuner on the market, and it has auto-tune built into it. So you can do a tune anytime you want with no additional $ spent.

Take a look at it HERE.

If you want an even more precise tune, you can add the Target Tune to the PV, and it is constantly monitoring and modifying the tune, every second that you are riding. It does cost some extra $, but if you are wanting the best possible tune, it is the way to go.

We are using a dyno constantly, TO TEST Efficacy of parts. But we have not bothered doing any dyno tuning on the dyno in many years. A computer will be more effective/accurate than a human dyno tuner 98% of the time.

None of my bikes are dyno tuned, they just have a Performance Plus Stage I with the tuner referenced above. Even so, they out perform the majority of bikes that have been dyno tuned, even most that have a Stage II upgrade.

Here is a link to an OVERVIEW on different EFI tuning options, with pros & cons of each.

Kevin

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DK Custom Products said:

For $500 you can get the best tuner on the market, and it has auto-tune built into it. So you can do a tune anytime you want with no additional $ spent.

Take a look at it HERE.

If you want an even more precise tune, you can add the Target Tune to the PV, and it is constantly monitoring and modifying the tune, every second that you are riding. It does cost some extra $, but if you are wanting the best possible tune, it is the way to go.

We are using a dyno constantly, TO TEST Efficacy of parts. But we have not bothered doing any dyno tuning on the dyno in many years. A computer will be more effective/accurate than a human dyno tuner 98% of the time.

None of my bikes are dyno tuned, they just have a Performance Plus Stage I with the tuner referenced above. Even so, they out perform the majority of bikes that have been dyno tuned, even most that have a Stage II upgrade.

Here is a link to an OVERVIEW on different EFI tuning options, with pros & cons of each.

Kevin

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nevtat said:

Here is the answer I got from a manufacturer of electronic ignition devices, looks like they are confirming that a "real" tune costs $1,100:

MOST street approved vehicles are released from the manufacturer in a bit of a lean condition. This is their attempt to meet strict emissions standards. With this lean condition, even a bone stock motorcycle could benefit from a good tune, to help it perform better. Any time you modify the bike, including air cleaners, aftermarket exhausts, heads, cams, greater displacement, etc., you are increasing the amount of air that flows thru that engine. In order to get that motor running to its potential, additional fuel is needed to get it running cooler and smoother, providing improved throttle response and increased longevity.

We offer the tools to get these engines dialed in and running the way they should be. As you mentioned, the Power Vision is a GREAT tool to do just that. It can be used to increase the fuel, adjust timing, etc. While we do offer various tunes to help you get your fueling where it should be, and additional tools like the Autotune and Target Tune accessories to assist with the tuning process, there is absolutely no substitute for having a custom tune created on a dyno by an experienced technician.



If you were to get the Power Vision, we can certainly get you a good tune to start with… And, you MAY find that you are more than happy with that power and performance… But, it can always use to be dialed in more precisely to ensure that your bike is getting the proper fuel, timing, etc. If the tune we send isn’t right on the money, you can make additional tweaks to the tune and/or add one of our accessories like the Autotune Pro or Target Tune. They can help to further refine your tune. These are the tools that a lot of shops will use to help build a custom tune, as well. Of course, like any tool, they are only as good as the knowledge and experience of the user. These tools can help you to get the bike dialed in even further, but, ultimately, you may find that it still needs to be refined even further by an experienced tuner.

Cost wise, it can be a tough call. The Power Vision and Autotune/Target Tune accessory may end up running about the same as the PV and dyno tune from this shop… But, at the very least, you can then use the PV on any additional Harleys (with the Delphi F/I system) you may own, as well.

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ISP-FL said:

I have never modified any of my scoots with tuners mainly because I didn't understand them. I've certainly paid to have some carbs re-jeted years ago after altering OEM exhaust.

So, after slip-ons and just a K&N cleanable filter in my OEM air box, what cheap tuner would everyone suggest? Would it be a "plug and play" install? Not after the perfect tune for 100% just need to maybe gain a little low end torque I lost and reduce some slight crackling when backing off.

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ISP-FL said:

I have never modified any of my scoots with tuners mainly because I didn't understand them. I've certainly paid to have some carbs re-jeted years ago after altering OEM exhaust.

So, after slip-ons and just a K&N cleanable filter in my OEM air box, what cheap tuner would everyone suggest? Would it be a "plug and play" install? Not after the perfect tune for 100% just need to maybe gain a little low end torque I lost and reduce some slight crackling when backing off.

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