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    Default I hate to do it .... but

    Yep I am gonna start an oil thread ... but just for Gold Wings.

    Up until very recently, I always went with whatever the manufacturer recommended. In this case GN4.

    My last Harley oil change I went way out of the box. I used different oil in all three holes .... and I loved the results. It shifted better, ran cooler, and the recommended service interval was longer for two of the three holes.

    So ... At the risk of being hated for raising this issue, what is everyone using and why. I'm also interested in what your used in the final drive before you converted your trike or if you rode a Gold Wing before your trike.

    I have a 2003 GL 1800 TWO WHEELER ... just wondering if I can do better than GN4.

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    I use Honda HP4S full syn and Honda oil filter. I now don’t read oil threads.

    I also change every 6000 miles.
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    I have a riding buddy with a 1800 wing & he swears by Shell Rotella T6. He's had it since new.

    He uses a Mobil 1 filter also. I just texted him & the filter # is M1- 110A
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    Well Fuzzy, now you have done it....

    For the last nine years, I have used Shell Rotella 15W-40 JMSO rated standard dino oil.

    I used this oil in the Wing as a two wheeler and currently in the trike conversion.

    I have used this oil for nine years since I purchased the Wing new. The tranny real likes this oil. I have had several oil tests done over the years with fantastic low level wear test results compared to about 5 different oils including the GN4.

    The cost is about $15/gallon at Walmart. I change the oil every 4 to 5K.

    I have 109k original miles using this oil.

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    I hope Jack doesn't see you started an oil thread. He LOVES them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David357 View Post
    Well Fuzzy, now you have done it....

    For the last nine years, I have used Shell Rotella 15W-40 JMSO rated standard dino oil.

    I used this oil in the Wing as a two wheeler and currently in the trike conversion.

    I have used this oil for nine years since I purchased the Wing new. The tranny real likes this oil. I have had several oil tests done over the years with fantastic low level wear test results compared to about 5 different oils including the GN4.

    The cost is about $15/gallon at Walmart. I change the oil every 4 to 5K.

    I have 109k original miles using this oil.
    I knew I would get the name of that oil out of you. I have used Rotella in my Japanese bikes for years.
    2017 Harley Davidson Freewheeler (107 cu.in. vivid black).

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDO View Post
    I knew I would get the name of that oil out of you. I have used Rotella in my bikes for years.
    It's Fuzzy's fault....

    I just couldn't contain myself....

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    For what it is worth I think Shell Rotella is a damn fine oil
    Nuff Said," Were Burnin Daylight, Lets Ride"(Sober 37 years)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Klarich View Post
    For what it is worth I think Shell Rotella is a damn fine oil
    I knew you liked oil threads, even Japanese bike/trike ones!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MDO View Post
    I knew you liked oil threads, even Japanese bike/trike ones!
    It is like a train wreck, I cant help but watch
    Nuff Said," Were Burnin Daylight, Lets Ride"(Sober 37 years)
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    I dunno, I kind of think oil threads are entertaining. I especially get a chuckle out of those that choose a very expensive oil and change it every 3K miles. Here's what I am currently using and I'm certain many will get a chuckle out of me. I've always been a fan of Valvoline oils, but haven't use them exclusively. Currently in my 2010 GL1800 (two wheeled) I am use a "custom synthetic blend." Now, here's where the chuckles start. I am using two quarts each of Valvoline 10w-40 motorcycle specific oil, synthetic and non-syn. I've got nearly 8k miles on this blend and the tranny still shifts smoothly. The engine hasn't seized, so I'm fixin' to do an oil change with the same combo. My oil filter for the next several years will be the K&N KN-204 filter as I scored a lot of ten on ebay a while back for around 35 bucks. Now, there has been a recall on certain year manufactured K&Ns, but mine are dated prior to that. The final drive gear oil I use in the GL1800 and in the 1990 GL1500se prior to triking it has been Mobil1 synthetic 80w-90. A word of caution if you have never changed the final drive gear oil, the filler cap is made of a brittle material and will crumble on you if too much force/torque is used loosening and tightening. I don't recall the foot pounds of torque to tighten, but it is only a tiny bit more than snug. (That's an industry term.) It's a good idea to have a spare filler cap on hand just in case.
    I love "helmet hair" because it means I've been riding!

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    I actually knew about Rotella ... just wanted to see if I could "Attract" Jack ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzyWuzHe View Post
    I actually knew about Rotella ... just wanted to see if I could "Attract" Jack ...
    Did somebody call my name
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Klarich View Post
    Did somebody call my name
    I think you can sniff out an oil thread ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzyWuzHe View Post
    I think you can sniff out an oil thread ...
    LOL, my snot locker is crooked from being broken but it works pretty good
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    Well, normally was using Honda oil, but a couple years ago ran up on great deal for Delo 400 LE 15W40, still have a "few" gallons jugs in my stash, both the '85 GL1200 and the '97 GL1500 (trike) seen pleased, smooth shifting, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David357 View Post
    Well Fuzzy, now you have done it....

    For the last nine years, I have used Shell Rotella 15W-40 JMSO rated standard dino oil.

    I used this oil in the Wing as a two wheeler and currently in the trike conversion.

    I have used this oil for nine years since I purchased the Wing new. The tranny real likes this oil. I have had several oil tests done over the years with fantastic low level wear test results compared to about 5 different oils including the GN4.

    The cost is about $15/gallon at Walmart. I change the oil every 4 to 5K.

    I have 109k original miles using this oil.
    I'm on the same page as David, Rotella Dino, change 4 to 5K miles, been with that since 2007, works good. By the way, I like oil threads, read them every time.

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    Hi Fuzzy

    Shell Rotella T6 for me. For the diff I used Amsoil Syn gear lube on my Valkyrie. For filters I like K&N 'cause they have that nut welded on. Now I've not serviced the Wing yet, I just got 'er

    Jack


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    Never heard of a Gold Wing engine failure because of oil.. Buy what you want, change it often, and sleep well. I would suggest never wasting money on synthetic if you are still going to change it often. But,,,, it's your money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David357 View Post
    Well Fuzzy, now you have done it....

    For the last nine years, I have used Shell Rotella 15W-40 JMSO rated standard dino oil.

    I used this oil in the Wing as a two wheeler and currently in the trike conversion.

    I have used this oil for nine years since I purchased the Wing new. The tranny real likes this oil. I have had several oil tests done over the years with fantastic low level wear test results compared to about 5 different oils including the GN4.

    The cost is about $15/gallon at Walmart. I change the oil every 4 to 5K.

    I have 109k original miles using this oil.
    David.....I have had the same results as you.....I was given 12 quarts of Amzoil when I purchased the trike in 2014.

    I was happy to go back to the Shell Rotela T4 15w40 ( used in two previous 1800’s )after I used up all the Amsoil.

    The trany shifts much smoother now!

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