FRR
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Anyone know of anywhere on this site that discusses the pros and cons of the Hannigan Quad
Hannigan Quad
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OlManRivh
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Since it's apparently only available now for the Honda 1800, I'd try the Honda forum.
Veritas44
Pawn In The Game Of Life
First thing would be to check with your State's DMV or the like to verify the legality and ability to register/plate. It varies greatly by State. Some-perfectly legal, some-not legal at all, some-don't care what you ride as long as they get your money.
There have been 19 of those produced. Six were sent out of the country (Portugal, South Africa, & Australia). The rest are bustin' bugs in various States from Indiana to Florida to Texas.
As for "real" Pros & Cons, may be a little difficult to get owner/operator knowledgable and experienced opinions and actual educated "takes" due to the limited number of them and those who own them.
They are nifty, safe, reliable, predictable, etc. and fun to ride/operate but obviously not suited for everyone. Of the 19 that have been sold, only 1 owner decided he didn't really like it after having it for 1.5 years (personal/physical issues) and sold it.
The rest were/are very happy with them. Guy in Portugal actually owns 2.
Hope this helps.
There have been 19 of those produced. Six were sent out of the country (Portugal, South Africa, & Australia). The rest are bustin' bugs in various States from Indiana to Florida to Texas.
As for "real" Pros & Cons, may be a little difficult to get owner/operator knowledgable and experienced opinions and actual educated "takes" due to the limited number of them and those who own them.
They are nifty, safe, reliable, predictable, etc. and fun to ride/operate but obviously not suited for everyone. Of the 19 that have been sold, only 1 owner decided he didn't really like it after having it for 1.5 years (personal/physical issues) and sold it.
The rest were/are very happy with them. Guy in Portugal actually owns 2.
Hope this helps.
FRR
New member
Great information. Thank you. I was not interested in one of these but a friend of mine thought he might be and started asking my questions. I thought I knew where to go for information and I was right. Thanks again
Bikerbozo
Class Clown
Is a Hannigan Quad, for want of a better description, a 4-wheel motorcycle? If so, I saw one at a trike shop in Jasper, IN had in their shop that they were building. Weird looking thing. Reminded me of an overgrown ATV.
Bob Witte
New member
Were any of them produced as a tadpole trike (i.e. two in front, one in rear ala the Can Am)?? When I first saw it, I thought it would be a great tadpole (for those who might prefer that mode).
Veritas44
Pawn In The Game Of Life
Well Bob (and any others),,, THAT was the original intention and goal. I am actually very glad you asked this question. This is an excellent place to speak once and be heard infinitly now and evermore. So, here goes.
HMS began design and fab on the HRT-Hannigan Reverse Trike in 2006. The Prototype was completed in early 2007 and began rigorous and thorough testing. During this time, numerous spring changes and slight tweaks to the A-Arm/H-Arm front end were implemented and tried. Also, the rear was "stretched" at various lengths once the optimal front config was determined. After 2+ years of this ongoing process and investment of a ton of effort and resources, it was evident that it would/could never be as good as Dave required in order to offer it to all the public. The unit posessed some characteristics that were somewhat unpredictable in aggressive situations that would require greater than average skills and experience to react and adapt to. Without going into a voluminous exhortation, that pretty much says it all.
When HMS set out to create this HRT, the goals were simple, non-negotiable/steadfast, and as follows:
1. Create a conversion for the GL1800 that would give the current and future riding public 3-Point safety and stability they both needed and/or wanted.
2. Do so at a turn-key Price-Point of $8000 or less to appeal to and be affordable to a larger demographic than was currently being served by conventional rear trikes.
3. Be as capable, stable, reliable, safe, operational, and non-experience demanding as current conventional trikes for the same or larger segment of the population.
That being the Mission Statement coupled with the refusal to accept anything less than attainment of ALL 3, Hannigan could not do anything other than abandon the project. They accomplished #1 with no issue, #2 was close (maybe close enough?) but,,, #3 was not possible without busting #2 all to pieces thus rendering it an abject failure regardless of the other 2 goals being met. Doubt and argue, if you should unwisely choose, the Standards and Character of Hannigan (both Company and Dave & Ruth Anne personally) but I assure you they are impeccable and unquestionable as evidenced by this historical reference. The vast majority of Manufacturers would have never even included #3 in the Mission Goals and if they did would have ignored it and gone forward with the project without blinking an eye. The HRT would have been a HUGE success financially and equally rivaled if not out-sold the Can-Am (It WOULD have-EASILY***). However, Profit, although obviously "A" goal of any Company, is not "THE" goal with them or THEIR Company.
Obviously true and accurate or there would be a plethera of these running around over the past 5+ years of production.
The ONLY way to have ethically gone ahead with the HRT would have been to Pick-N-Choose the prospective Owner/Operators based on their individual experience and abilities requiring a waiver more tedious and ironclad than Tom Cruise's next Pre-Nup. Again, not acceptable to Hannigan as such completely violates the original intention as well as standards of ethics. It's also way too flawed judgementally and to do so would have been discriminatory and ostracized good people and clients and ultimately ineffectual.
Before anybody gets started on the comparisms to the Can-Am dynamically and operationally.... Don't. The comparism CANNOT intelligibly be made due to such a huge difference at their cores. Snowmobile/Sled VS. GL1800. Not apples to oranges-more like Mars to Venus. Plus the Can-Am is loaded with electronics and "drive-by-wire" assemblies and systems which without, it would be a brutal unforgiving machine (not meant to be taken as a bashing of the BRP at all in any way shape or form.
They are nifty and tons of fun for many who own and greatly cherish them).
That brings us to the Quad...
In 2007 during the Testing & Tweaking phase of the early HRT, HMS had the idea "Wonder what would happen if we mated the HRT and the Trike together?"... Well, they tried it and the rest is history. When the HRT front was mated with the Trike rear, all the issues experienced with attempting to satisfy #3 above were easily and successfully overcome. Likewise, if 3 points are good 4 points are better so #1 was covered as well. The Quad was all of those and more. Of course, #2 couldn't be met by any means therefore: Only 19 have been produced since the total Quad conversion runs between 23 & 26 G's. However, due to it's shear size and naturally polarizing appeal and attributes, #2 doesn't apply in the first place. Also, in this day and age where $40K-$50K 2-wheel bikes aren't out of the question and do indeed sell, still a viable product to certain segments of the motoring public.
There you have it. The History of the HRT Project and the Tale of the Quad all in one.
P.s.
There will be NO sequel or prequel.
Any further questions about the HRT: Keep them to yourselves!
Any further questions or interest in the Quad: Call Hannigan ThumbUp
P.p.s.*** Within the segment of those who would actually consider both fairly prior to making an informed and educated buying decision.
HMS began design and fab on the HRT-Hannigan Reverse Trike in 2006. The Prototype was completed in early 2007 and began rigorous and thorough testing. During this time, numerous spring changes and slight tweaks to the A-Arm/H-Arm front end were implemented and tried. Also, the rear was "stretched" at various lengths once the optimal front config was determined. After 2+ years of this ongoing process and investment of a ton of effort and resources, it was evident that it would/could never be as good as Dave required in order to offer it to all the public. The unit posessed some characteristics that were somewhat unpredictable in aggressive situations that would require greater than average skills and experience to react and adapt to. Without going into a voluminous exhortation, that pretty much says it all.
When HMS set out to create this HRT, the goals were simple, non-negotiable/steadfast, and as follows:
1. Create a conversion for the GL1800 that would give the current and future riding public 3-Point safety and stability they both needed and/or wanted.
2. Do so at a turn-key Price-Point of $8000 or less to appeal to and be affordable to a larger demographic than was currently being served by conventional rear trikes.
3. Be as capable, stable, reliable, safe, operational, and non-experience demanding as current conventional trikes for the same or larger segment of the population.
That being the Mission Statement coupled with the refusal to accept anything less than attainment of ALL 3, Hannigan could not do anything other than abandon the project. They accomplished #1 with no issue, #2 was close (maybe close enough?) but,,, #3 was not possible without busting #2 all to pieces thus rendering it an abject failure regardless of the other 2 goals being met. Doubt and argue, if you should unwisely choose, the Standards and Character of Hannigan (both Company and Dave & Ruth Anne personally) but I assure you they are impeccable and unquestionable as evidenced by this historical reference. The vast majority of Manufacturers would have never even included #3 in the Mission Goals and if they did would have ignored it and gone forward with the project without blinking an eye. The HRT would have been a HUGE success financially and equally rivaled if not out-sold the Can-Am (It WOULD have-EASILY***). However, Profit, although obviously "A" goal of any Company, is not "THE" goal with them or THEIR Company.
Obviously true and accurate or there would be a plethera of these running around over the past 5+ years of production.
The ONLY way to have ethically gone ahead with the HRT would have been to Pick-N-Choose the prospective Owner/Operators based on their individual experience and abilities requiring a waiver more tedious and ironclad than Tom Cruise's next Pre-Nup. Again, not acceptable to Hannigan as such completely violates the original intention as well as standards of ethics. It's also way too flawed judgementally and to do so would have been discriminatory and ostracized good people and clients and ultimately ineffectual.
Before anybody gets started on the comparisms to the Can-Am dynamically and operationally.... Don't. The comparism CANNOT intelligibly be made due to such a huge difference at their cores. Snowmobile/Sled VS. GL1800. Not apples to oranges-more like Mars to Venus. Plus the Can-Am is loaded with electronics and "drive-by-wire" assemblies and systems which without, it would be a brutal unforgiving machine (not meant to be taken as a bashing of the BRP at all in any way shape or form.
They are nifty and tons of fun for many who own and greatly cherish them).
That brings us to the Quad...
In 2007 during the Testing & Tweaking phase of the early HRT, HMS had the idea "Wonder what would happen if we mated the HRT and the Trike together?"... Well, they tried it and the rest is history. When the HRT front was mated with the Trike rear, all the issues experienced with attempting to satisfy #3 above were easily and successfully overcome. Likewise, if 3 points are good 4 points are better so #1 was covered as well. The Quad was all of those and more. Of course, #2 couldn't be met by any means therefore: Only 19 have been produced since the total Quad conversion runs between 23 & 26 G's. However, due to it's shear size and naturally polarizing appeal and attributes, #2 doesn't apply in the first place. Also, in this day and age where $40K-$50K 2-wheel bikes aren't out of the question and do indeed sell, still a viable product to certain segments of the motoring public.
There you have it. The History of the HRT Project and the Tale of the Quad all in one.
P.s.
There will be NO sequel or prequel.
Any further questions about the HRT: Keep them to yourselves!
Any further questions or interest in the Quad: Call Hannigan ThumbUp
P.p.s.*** Within the segment of those who would actually consider both fairly prior to making an informed and educated buying decision.
1800 06 Champion Trike
TOI - Wisconsin
Missouri Charley
Banned
Oh but to be independently wealthy!!!! There would be a white one under my Christmas tree, how kool is it! Charley
Bob Witte
New member
Well Bob (and any others),,, THAT was the original intention and goal. I am actually very glad you asked this question. This is an excellent place to speak once and be heard infinitly now and evermore. So, here goes.
....<snip>....
There you have it. The History of the HRT Project and the Tale of the Quad all in one.
P.s. There will be NO sequel or prequel.
Any further questions about the HRT: Keep them to yourselves!
Any further questions or interest in the Quad: Call Hannigan ThumbUp
P.p.s.*** Within the segment of those who would actually consider both fairly prior to making an informed and educated buying decision.
Thanks for the information, that's why this is "The Place" for trikers.
John,
Bein' an ole Alabama boy, can I get one in camo, mudgrips and front and rear racks??
OlManRivh
New member
One of the problems with the Can-am is keeping the front end aligned. I see the same problem here.
Veritas44
Pawn In The Game Of Life
Well Zook,,, But Of Course! ThumbUp
Will you be paying with Cash in Mason Jars or Chickens?
P.s. Knew you were kiddin around,,,
Being an "Alabama Boy" you would really want that in Confederate Flag / Skynyrd Hydrocoat Motif, 35" Gumbo Swamp-Paddles, & twin M-60 drum-feds perma mounted in the front fenders and a single Browning 50 cal belt-fed (loaded with spent fuel-rod tipped phosphorous rounds) swivel turret mounted on the rear. I'll throw in the Bear Bryant & Joe Willie bobble-heads at no addtional expense just cause it's You.
(Dontcha go tellin nobody)...
Will you be paying with Cash in Mason Jars or Chickens?
P.s. Knew you were kiddin around,,,
Being an "Alabama Boy" you would really want that in Confederate Flag / Skynyrd Hydrocoat Motif, 35" Gumbo Swamp-Paddles, & twin M-60 drum-feds perma mounted in the front fenders and a single Browning 50 cal belt-fed (loaded with spent fuel-rod tipped phosphorous rounds) swivel turret mounted on the rear. I'll throw in the Bear Bryant & Joe Willie bobble-heads at no addtional expense just cause it's You.
(Dontcha go tellin nobody)...
Well Zook,,, But Of Course! ThumbUp
Will you be paying with Cash in Mason Jars or Chickens?
P.s. Knew you were kiddin around,,,
Being an "Alabama Boy" you would really want that in Confederate Flag / Skynyrd Hydrocoat Motif, 35" Gumbo Swamp-Paddles, & twin M-60 drum-feds perma mounted in the front fenders and a single Browning 50 cal belt-fed (loaded with spent fuel-rod tipped phosphorous rounds) swivel turret mounted on the rear. I'll throw in the Bear Bryant & Joe Willie bobble-heads at no addtional expense just cause it's You.
(Dontcha go tellin nobody)...
Yeee...hoooo! John, I'm in heaven just picturing that bad mo-chine!
epper:(p.s....For ole times sake, make sure the Joe Willie Bobble is wearin' panty hose!)
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