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    Quote Originally Posted by Zammy View Post
    Best I saw today was $4.03 for regular.
    All over the map here anywhere from $3.85 to $4.45 for regular…
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    3.76 today when I filled up with reg.I didn't notice what the others were.
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    Here in the welfare state Abaduly is charging $4.14 - $4.45 for reg gasolina. To drop .18 cents in July from removing the fuel tax . And ya know it will get made up some how else . Government Head Games
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1dn5up View Post
    Here in the welfare state Abaduly is charging $4.14 - $4.45 for reg gasolina. To drop .18 cents in July from removing the fuel tax . And ya know it will get made up some how else . Government Head Games
    Start charging the Road used tax.(AKA Gasoline Tax) To Electric vehicles..😉
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    Still over $ 4.00 for the cheap stuff
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    I just paid 5.20 for Exon 93..And being the only gas station in town I paid for the convenience…When I moved here in 1970 there was four gas stations and one traffic light now we have two traffic lights but one gas station..
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    Exxon 93 has dropped here to 4.439…. down from 4.469… its headed in the right direction for now..
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    $ 4.69 today for non-ethanol when we filled up the bike, 4.03 for regular
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    No change as Abidulie Will milk it as long as they can
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    $3.60 just across the border in Maryland today... Gov. Adolf Wolfe here in PA is not cutting us any slack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ol' school View Post
    $3.60 just across the border in Maryland today... Gov. Adolf Wolfe here in PA is not cutting us any slack.
    Curious by the framing, I could find no association with Nazism and Pennsylvanian Governor Tom Wolfe, nor a policy position connecting the Governor to national/world gas price trends. Pennsylvania has the highest State imposed gas tax at 57.6 cents per gallon- imposed by the State legislature, not the Governor's office. See the map below for what party controls that legislature - you may be surprised.

    I wondered if I could find a correlation between fuel prices and demographics- either state population or party State House control. A few resources I tapped:

    Tripple A's convenient one-stop for checking the daily average gas price by State and Nationally, all on one page:

    https://gasprices.aaa.com/state-gas-price-averages/

    Prices remain highest West of the Rockies, with a national average of $4.116.

    Here's AAA's gas price map for 4/10/2022- dark blue = lowest, dark red = highest, white = middle of the road:

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    Here's a map illustration State House control by party:

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    A map showing population distribution:

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    ...and a map showing gas taxes:

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    Looking at these metrics, I can't see any clear indication of a price connection to political control or population density. I thought I would see higher prices connected to use taxes in areas with large populations and heavy road use - but there are plenty of states that defy that intuition. Likewise, there is no obvious connection between party control and prices; it seems that mechanics other than politics are dictating fuel prices.

    Unsatisfied, I reviewed the cost map again; their seems clearly to be a geographic element connecting the lower priced zoned centered on the middle of the country. The price wall aligned with the Rockies pointed to transportation costs- which led me to look at where gas is refined and refining capacity. Here's an illustration:

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    Adding this last to all these considerations, the a primary correlation with price seems to be transportation and refining capacity, and post refinement transportation. Within this zone of lower cost, Illinois stands out as stark anomaly. What it ain't is simple, defying my desire for a unifying answer applicable to every local. I reckon really understanding why-this-price-hear is a confluence of all these elements- population, geography, local goals and policy, politics, funding mechanisms, proximity to production -and more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavigogun View Post
    Curious by the framing, I could find no association with Nazism and Pennsylvanian Governor Tom Wolfe, nor a policy position connecting the Governor to national/world gas price trends. Pennsylvania has the highest State imposed gas tax at 57.6 cents per gallon- imposed by the State legislature, not the Governor's office. See the map below for what party controls that legislature - you may be surprised.

    I wondered if I could find a correlation between fuel prices and demographics- either state population or party State House control. A few resources I tapped:

    Tripple A's convenient one-stop for checking the daily average gas price by State and Nationally, all on one page:

    https://gasprices.aaa.com/state-gas-price-averages/

    Prices remain highest West of the Rockies, with a national average of $4.116.

    Here's AAA's gas price map for 4/10/2022- dark blue = lowest, dark red = highest, white = middle of the road:

    Name:  Screenshot 2022-04-10 at 09-58-03 AAA Gas Prices.png
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    Here's a map illustration State House control by party:

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Views: 131
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    A map showing population distribution:

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    ...and a map showing gas taxes:

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    Looking at these metrics, I can't see any clear indication of a price connection to political control or population density. I thought I would see higher prices connected to use taxes in areas with large populations and heavy road use - but there are plenty of states that defy that intuition. Likewise, there is no obvious connection between party control and prices; it seems that mechanics other than politics are dictating fuel prices.

    Unsatisfied, I reviewed the cost map again; their seems clearly to be a geographic element connecting the lower priced zoned centered on the middle of the country. The price wall aligned with the Rockies pointed to transportation costs- which led me to look at where gas is refined and refining capacity. Here's an illustration:

    Name:  Screenshot 2022-04-10 at 11-01-33 Interactive Map Crude Oil Pipelines and Refineries of the U.S..png
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    Adding this last to all these considerations, the a primary correlation with price seems to be transportation and refining capacity, and post refinement transportation. Within this zone of lower cost, Illinois stands out as stark anomaly. What it ain't is simple, defying my desire for a unifying answer applicable to every local. I reckon really understanding why-this-price-hear is a confluence of all these elements- population, geography, local goals and policy, politics, funding mechanisms, proximity to production -and more.
    Short and sweet..There’s no rime or reason…within ten mile of me regular sells for 385.9 to 439.9…If no one would buy it the prices would drop..
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    Of course people wouldn't buy it if they didn't need it. If you're working and live in any outlying areas you're gonna pay the price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino 2 View Post
    Short and sweet..There’s no rime or reason…
    I, too, reckon there is no rime- instead, a multitude of reasons that defy short answers. As to "sweet", that adjective speaks directly to why we import oil- a mismatch of sweet and sour refining capacities, and related refining cost balanced to crude price incentives.

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    There's a refinery in the Lovington/Hobbs area, Navajo Refinery and you'd think we would have cheap gas. The only place you get cheap gas around here is Taco Bell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidecarbill View Post
    Of course people wouldn't buy it if they didn't need it. If you're working and live in any outlying areas you're gonna pay the price.
    And yet 15 MPG SUV’s out sell 30 MPG Cars 6 to 1…🤔..
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    My old wrangler gets 16 to 17 and that is a completely gutless 4 cyl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidecarbill View Post
    My old wrangler gets 16 to 17 and that is a completely gutless 4 cyl.
    My Hemi Ram 4Wd when not towing gets 19/20…Going up to camp…16 Around town..And it has 4 hundred hp.. But in the winter when I use the remote start to defrost the windows the mileage goes out the door..The wife’s Hoopie 2002 Suzuki V6 4 wheel drive gets 20 intown and highway it rarely varies …
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    Reg. Gas at $3.39 So Far.............
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