I have an 2005 Ultra with Lehman trike. I was looking at the Vance & Hines Fuelpak. They say it will work with or without 02 Senso's. My bike is an 05 Ultra completely stock 88". Will this tuner be worth the purchase?
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I have an 2005 Ultra with Lehman trike. I was looking at the Vance & Hines Fuelpak. They say it will work with or without 02 Senso's. My bike is an 05 Ultra completely stock 88". Will this tuner be worth the purchase?
What you may be interested to know is... Your 05 can have 02 sensors!
The Harley ECM that was built in 2005 has the ability to read and use sensors if they are installed and wired into the ECM harness. The instructions and part numbers are in the TTS manual which can be freely downloaded.
I agree with the above...FP is junk and the choice should be completely yours to choose. I would highly suggest to use only a Flash Style Tuner that is not left on the bike nor tries to fool the ECM by giving poor data to operate the bike. Flash it, take it off and enjoy. If you install sensors the bike will adjust as you ride.
I see several people espousing the Fuel Pac....here's the thing. The Fuel Pac may very well work ok for the OP. It may, and it may not. However, will it be as good as it can be? No way. There is no substitute for creating a tune for a specific bike. Even similar if not identical bikes with the same alterations will have different "perfect" tunes. There are just so many variables, riding style, available gas type, atmospheric differences, etc etc etc. There are a lot of devices that will get someone in the ballpark, but only a few that will get them perfect or close to perfect. While I, personally, have always believed that there was no substitute for a really good tuner using a device he was extremely familiar with, I have recently altered my opinion somewhat. I, personally, have a TTS Mastertune. With the newest software out, I can plug it into my bike, go riding for a day or a week, and then download the files to my computer, let the program manipulate them a bit, and upload them back to my bike. Do I require a computer at the bike? Yes, in order to get the tune into the bike. Do I now require a computer to ride with the bike? Nope, not unless I want it to help visualize the tune.
A Fuel Pac will adjust the fuel map. It won't do a thing for the timing or the EGR map. Others will, which means that regardless of how close V&H may be able to get your tune (over the phone), you will still be leaving quite a bit on the table. In addition, a Fuel Pac is there for anyone to see while servicing the bike (same with a Power Commander), and an ******* Dealership can report it and invalidate part of your OEM warranty, and totally invalidate your aftermarket extended service plan. Now a Race Tuner or Mastertune will do the same, but they would have to read the ECM to see if one was used....and, at least with the Mastertune, you can remove all traces of the device so Harley can't tell it was ever used. The Power Vision was mentioned, but I have no first hand knowledge of it.
:Agree: 100 % regarding your assessment of the V&H Fuel Pak!! You mentioned you had no knowledge of the Power Vision, might I suggest that you take a look at this product to familiarize yourself. I have one on my 2013 V-Rod Muscle and one on my 2013 Trike w/120r motor and really like the way they both run. I can do everything on the Power Vision that you can do with the Race Tuner without a computer at all. And once the tune is done you can remove from the bike and leave NOTHING behind since it modifies the ECM and is not an add-on/left behind device.
Roger
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got the trike in daytona shipped to ct took it to the dealer here they said it was flashed got to get a tuner now they said it is okay to run but get one soon wife and i put almost 200 mikes on it today what a blast and got all kind of looks good ones
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