Ticking noise in engine or transmission

[Tricycleman]

Had the scare of my life after filling up with gas at a station when pulling away developed a ticking noise thought it was my drive shaft so I engaged the clutch and still rolling ahead at approximately 5 mph noise went away. I then release the clutch driving in first gear and picked up the ticking noise again .When I stopped put it in neutral and let the clutch out the ticking noise came back. Park the trike took a 30 minute break for lunch when I proceeded to ride again the noise was gone so I drove it an additional 400 miles home with no ticking noise.

Anyone have a clue what I might have experienced or what I need to be checking out?

 

[GoldWingrGreg]

Because your ticking is there while stopped eliminates a lot. All parts that move while rolling, but not when stopped are now eliminated. So that rules out the drive shaft, rear end, all tires, brakes, the output shaft of the engine, any of it's primary drive gears, and most parts related to 1/2 of your transmission.

Unfortunately, that leaves the rest of the engine. If it comes back, make a video of it to capture the sound, post it on youtube, and then post the link here.

 

[Tricycleman]

Eliminating possibilities

I agree with what you stated on the possible parts that were eliminated which I figured out on my actions with engaging and disengaging the clutch and not moving the trike. In one part I hope the noise never comes back but being my luck it'll come back when I'm a thousand miles away from home that's it sort of what scares me if it never comes back what the heck it was.

It sort of sounded like the noise that you get in a engine when you have a valve that is sticking.

Thanks for responding back I'll keep you posted on what transpires

 

[GoldWingrGreg]

I agree with what you stated on the possible parts that were eliminated which I figured out on my actions with engaging and disengaging the clutch and not moving the trike. In one part I hope the noise never comes back but being my luck it'll come back when I'm a thousand miles away from home that's it sort of what scares me if it never comes back what the heck it was.

It sort of sounded like the noise that you get in a engine when you have a valve that is sticking.

Thanks for responding back I'll keep you posted on what transpires

Has the bike been sitting or stored for more then a few weeks ??? By asking this, I'm not suggesting it, but has a fuel additive ever been added to the tank ???

 

[hogcowboy]

Had the scare of my life after filling up with gas at a station when pulling away developed a ticking noise thought it was my drive shaft so I engaged the clutch and still rolling ahead at approximately 5 mph noise went away. I then release the clutch driving in first gear and picked up the ticking noise again .When I stopped put it in neutral and let the clutch out the ticking noise came back. Park the trike took a 30 minute break for lunch when I proceeded to ride again the noise was gone so I drove it an additional 400 miles home with no ticking noise.

Anyone have a clue what I might have experienced or what I need to be checking out?

This might be a loose baffle in the muffler too. Air flow change with the clutch pulled in. Long shot but possible.:Shrug:

 

[GoldWingrGreg]

This might be a loose baffle in the muffler too. Air flow change with the clutch pulled in. Long shot but possible.:Shrug:

That could be possible ... to test, get the noise to occur while running at 0mph. Then have someone cover, and begin to block the exhaust flow, in each exhaust tip, with a large rag to see if the noise changes.

 

[Tricycleman]

Feel additives

Greg I've never used fuel additives for some reason I don't believe in them maybe I should change my mind. Yes a bike had set for a couple weeks but this happened on my way home from the BBQ rally and I had approximately 1200 miles on the bike and it was very hot out. I have not been able to recreate this ticking noise. But if it comes back again I'll try to get a video of it and also check the exhaust baffles as someone else has mentioned. I appreciate the response and suggest places to look from everyone that's posted

thanks

 

[GoldWingrGreg]

Greg I've never used fuel additives for some reason I don't believe in them maybe I should change my mind. thanks

OK ... in my mind, it helps answer that. In the mean time, I am like you and would not recommend using and additive, so don't.

 

[Burnerboy]

OK ... in my mind, it helps answer that. In the mean time, I am like you and would not recommend using and additive, so don't.

Gregg,

Jumping in on your conversation here ;I've been using seafome or Startron in my fuel tank only when I'm going on a very long ride and I know that I'll be using a full tank of fuel that day.....Am I correct to use this stuff, or after reading your answer to the poster, I may not be right.... (when you speak I totally listen) I'm all ears here!

I'm "Captron" on that other board

Ronnie

 

[GoldWingrGreg]

Gregg,

Jumping in on your conversation here ;I've been using seafome or Startron in my fuel tank only when I'm going on a very long ride and I know that I'll be using a full tank of fuel that day.....Am I correct to use this stuff, or after reading your answer to the poster, I may not be right.... (when you speak I totally listen) I'm all ears here!

I'm "Captron" on that other board

Ronnie

Why are you using it ???

 

[Burnerboy]

Why you are using it ???

I feel that I'm cleaning out the fuel injectors (2010 Goldwing) ..Like I mentioned before I ONLY use this stuff when I'm taking a very long trip and I know that I'll be emptying out a full tank, that day.....

ps: I just started using additives this season (I had this bike since new)

Thanks for your reply(s)

Ronnie

[Captron]

 

[GoldWingrGreg]

I feel that I'm cleaning out the fuel injectors (2010 Goldwing) ..Like I mentioned before I ONLY use this stuff when I'm taking a very long trip and I know that I'll be emptying out a full tank, that day.....

ps: I just started using additives this season (I had this bike since new)

Thanks for your reply(s)

Ronnie

[Captron]

Use your Owner's Manual as your guide. There are 8 fluids used on GL1800s. No where in there does it say to add an additive in any of them.

If you are going to use it, never leave it in your tank, but run through, and use up that tank like you are doing. However, I would not use it at all unless it can be justified. Just because others are using it, or because the internet says to, or the TV commercial says to, or because the parts guy says to, or the tire buster at Firestone says to, or because the print on the bottle says to, is not a justified reason.

 

[paws]

Use your Owner's Manual as your guide. There are 8 fluids used on GL1800s. No where in there does it say to add an additive in any of them.

If you are going to use it, never leave it in your tank, but run through, and use up that tank like you are doing. However, I would not use it at all unless it can be justified. Just because others are using it, or because the internet says to, or the TV commercial says to, or because the parts guy says to, or the tire buster at Firestone says to, or because the print on the bottle says to, is not a justified reason.

Gregg....

Dumb girl question here....what would be wrong with using an additive?

Thanks, Carla

 

[GoldWingrGreg]

Gregg....

Dumb girl question here....what would be wrong with using an additive?

Thanks, Carla

Rules of thumb .... ever built something and heard some a**hole remind you that you should have "measure twice and cut once ???"

In the repair business, there are "rules of thumb" to. They are often taught in formal mechanic classes. Do's and don'ts a person can always fall back on ... a "mechanical or repair conscience" if you will. One of them is to "never, ever use a chemical unless it can be justified." Instead of adding an additive to gas, maybe a better choice would be to buy a branded gas, such as Shell Premium, that already has similar additives added into it. The difference is that smarter people, such as petroleum engineers, are doing the adding instead of someone like you and I. More importantly, using a 91 octane agrees with what is written in the Owner's Manual (use at least an 86+ octane or higher). When an engine and fuel delivery system is being developed, Honda engineers will work closely with petroleum engineers. When Honda write something like use a 86+ octane, they've already been advised by petroleum engineers that some premium priced gasoline's may have additional additives added to it. Their final engine and fuel delivery design accounts for that.

 

[paws]

Thanks for the reply.

but just wondering...with all the hype of the ethanol damage to engines...isn't that why they are pushing the additives? If 91 octane is not readily available in your area would it be prudent to run a dab of additive on a regular basis? In my area I usually use Chevron or Exxon branded gas...would you consider those brands having an adequate amount of the correct additives? Thanks again, in advance...Carla

 

[Burnerboy]

Gregg,

What about gas stableizer at the end of the season, when were putting it away for the season, or the wing is going to sit for very long periods at a time? I always put in a bottle, ride it to a gas station, fill it up with fuel, (let the stableizer get into the injectors) and put it away correctly...Same with my lawn mowers, snow blowers (depending on the time of the season)

Sorry about all these questions here: But your my "main-man" here when it comes time to listen and learn....

I hear that gas does go bad if sitting for long periods of time...

Again, thank you,

Ronnie

 

[GoldWingrGreg]

Thanks for the reply.

but just wondering...with all the hype of the ethanol damage to engines...isn't that why they are pushing the additives? If 91 octane is not readily available in your area would it be prudent to run a dab of additive on a regular basis? In my area I usually use Chevron or Exxon branded gas...would you consider those brands having an adequate amount of the correct additives? Thanks again, in advance...Carla

In my entire life, out side of adding an additive to the gas that was in the gas tank after doing a carb. OH, I've never put an additive in my gas. Do you add it to all your vehicles too ??? Why not see what happens when you don't. Keep in mind that most people add no additive to their gas, and use an 86 or 87 octane unless it is not available, and I don't think the lower octanes have additive (however it is best to read and get that info at the pump).

 

[GoldWingrGreg]

Gregg,

What about gas stableizer at the end of the season, when were putting it away for the season, or the wing is going to sit for very long periods at a time? I always put in a bottle, ride it to a gas station, fill it up with fuel, (let the stableizer get into the injectors) and put it away correctly...Same with my lawn mowers, snow blowers (depending on the time of the season)

Sorry about all these questions here: But your my "main-man" here when it comes time to listen and learn....

I hear that gas does go bad if sitting for long periods of time...

Again, thank you,

Ronnie

I the link below I wrote about that in post #6. However, you might want to read the whole post. After all, it does represent what can happen if a GL1800 is stored for a long period of time with a fuel additive added to the tank. Remember, our engines are different. We have horizontal valves with an injector sitting directly above an intake valve. What ever comes out of that injector is gonna mist and coat the intake's valve stem.

http://www.triketalk.com/forum/threads/44478-Sticking-valves-in-head

Because of the repair in link as well as others, it is why in post #12 in this thread I replied "If you are going to use it, never leave it in your tank, but run through, and use up that tank like you are doing."

 

[hogcowboy]

This thread could blow up but with todays fuels just how long do these additives in the fuel last? I hear that within a month some breakdown causing problems. So wouldn't adding something like Chevron Star Tron or Seafoam in those month old fuels help or is it still a waste? I totally understand if you run threw a tank of fuel every few days but many don't. They ride in waves. Ride a week then park for several up to a month or more depending on family matters. Isn't that what additives are for? So I don't understand the absolute never use unless you are saying to use it like I suggest since the factory additives do stop working or diminish.

 

[Tricycleman]

That could be possible ... to test, get the noise to occur while running at 0mph. Then have someone cover, and begin to block the exhaust flow, in each exhaust tip, with a large rag to see if the noise changes.

Okay mentioning loose baffle is that not part of the end piece that can be removed on the muffler? If that's the case then I believe I'll just remove the two end pieces and check the baffes For looseness. I've never heard of this being an issue.